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:::::I don't know why you quote a catechism. I doubt you even accept its basic teachings. The Catholic Church is not Quaker, and it is not pacifist. It has always accepted the death penalty and the justifications for war, and always will.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:10, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::I don't know why you quote a catechism. I doubt you even accept its basic teachings. The Catholic Church is not Quaker, and it is not pacifist. It has always accepted the death penalty and the justifications for war, and always will.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:10, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
::::::I quote a catechism to point out that my views are not limited to "materialists" and "utilitarians." Your personal ideas on the matter don't change the fact that the Catholic Church (by papal encyclical, and not by "popular opinion") has expressed that it stands for "near total opposition to the death penalty."<ref>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/angel/procon/popestate.html</ref>
::::::I would be happy to discuss my religious and political views in greater detail if you feel that they undermine my ability to contribute to this project in a meaningful way. --[[User:Economist|Economist]] 14:23, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
==Lincoln a Conservative?==
==Lincoln a Conservative?==