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:::You've nailed the issue on the head.  Ronald Reagan and Boris Yeltsin are two recent examples in history of liberals; as User:Order raised the issue here [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Liberal#Liberal_outside_of_the_US] comparing the American use of the term vs its use outside the US.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:42, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
 
:::You've nailed the issue on the head.  Ronald Reagan and Boris Yeltsin are two recent examples in history of liberals; as User:Order raised the issue here [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Liberal#Liberal_outside_of_the_US] comparing the American use of the term vs its use outside the US.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:42, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
 
::::So if little government intervention in the economy is the liberal stance on economics... does that make socialism the conservative viewpoint?  [[User:GodlessLiberal|GodlessLiberal]] 23:06, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
 
::::So if little government intervention in the economy is the liberal stance on economics... does that make socialism the conservative viewpoint?  [[User:GodlessLiberal|GodlessLiberal]] 23:06, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
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:::::Good question.  That presupposes liberalism and conservatism are polar opposites.  Now, in a purely cycnical sense, one can say that they are, just as sanity and insanity are polar opposites.  This is one reason I personally do not subscribe to the spectrum theory.
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:::::In economic theory, liberality and prodigality are polar opposites.  In American political culture, "liberals" really are for the most part socialists; however in its American use it carries a connotation of "treasonous".  This is absent outside of America, were many American allies, Britain or Israel for example, have Socialist governments.  Not just Socialist laws or policies, actual Socialist parties in control of government.  So if we were to apply that American understanding of the term, i.e. that a "Socialist" is "anti-American", how do we explain close allies being "anti-American"?
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:::::Thus, American political vocabulary is all screwed up.  And all we can really say for sure is both terms, liberal and socialist, are abused and neither conveys a clear meaning.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 23:38, 26 March 2007 (EDT)
    
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