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::::::::::OK, so they don't beleive the government is sincere.  Big deal.  Nonetheless, that puts them in opposition to the governments declared policy.  Secondly, they are just a random collection of private citizens--without any Constitutional authority whatsoever (other than thier individual First Amendment rights) to pulbicly express thier opposition to the governments stated policy of fostering democracy and human rights abroad.  Third, the government has a track record now of (a) removing a fascist regime and (b) securing universal suffarage and assisting a democratically elected regime to power.  By contrast, our "liberal" friends have a track record of (a) arguing for the survival of fascism and (b) actively seeking to undermine a liberal democracy that is also an ally.

::::::::::OK, so they don't beleive the government is sincere.  Big deal.  Nonetheless, that puts them in opposition to the governments declared policy.  Secondly, they are just a random collection of private citizens--without any Constitutional authority whatsoever (other than thier individual First Amendment rights) to pulbicly express thier opposition to the governments stated policy of fostering democracy and human rights abroad.  Third, the government has a track record now of (a) removing a fascist regime and (b) securing universal suffarage and assisting a democratically elected regime to power.  By contrast, our "liberal" friends have a track record of (a) arguing for the survival of fascism and (b) actively seeking to undermine a liberal democracy that is also an ally.

:::::::::::Everything up to ''By contrast'' is kind of true. But our ''liberal'' would deny that they argure in favor of fascism and they would deny that they want to undermine a liberal democracy. You have to give them the right to sincerely believe that they don't , just like Bush has the right to sincerly believe that his policy is fostering democracy in the Middel East. That you or I think that they are mistaken doesn't matter. [[User:Order|Order]] 27 March 15:00

:::::::::::Everything up to ''By contrast'' is kind of true. But our ''liberal friends'' would deny that they argure in favor of fascism and they would deny that they want to undermine a liberal democracy. You have to give them the right to sincerely believe that they don't, just like Bush has the right to sincerly believe that his policy is fostering democracy in the Middel East. That you or I think that they are mistaken doesn't matter. [[User:Order|Order]] 27 March 15:00

::::::::::The Defense of Marriage Act is not really a very good analogy, primarily because there is a difference between law and policy.  And Bill Clinton isn't a dictator, the President has no legislative authority.

::::::::::The Defense of Marriage Act is not really a very good analogy, primarily because there is a difference between law and policy.  And Bill Clinton isn't a dictator, the President has no legislative authority.

::::::::::There is a difference between law and policy, but in both cases you can have people who disagree with it for various reasons. And in a way, people should be more inclined to subscribe to a law, than to a policy, because as you said, a president doesn't have any legislative authority. [[User:Order|Order]] 27 March 15:00

::::::::::There is a difference between law and policy, but in both cases you can have people who disagree with it for various reasons. And in a way, people should be more inclined to subscribe to a law, than to a policy, because as you said, a president doesn't have any legislative authority. [[User:Order|Order]] 27 March 15:00