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:::My careful statement was that Jesus and the apostles certain fit the description of Christians who hold to the evangelical fundamentals, and are manifestly committed to them.  If this suffices as defining a fundamentalist then it should be able to be used for them. Certainly Jesus believed in the virgin birth, and the infallibility and inerrancy of Scripture, His blood atonement and resurrection, and salvation by grace, and took such stories as Jonah and the fish as literally true, and was committed to heart and doctrinal purity. Whether He intended musical instruments for the church i know not, and am certain the time of the rapture is not an essential. But i do believe He upheld and  appealed to the reality of eternal torment, and upheld the moral laws of the O.T, except to intensify them even more. But His spirit was not that which Fred Phelps so often has displayed, much less than men like the liberal Catholic priest Daniel Helminiak, who disallows fundamentalists from being Christians, due to their opposition to homosexuality. [[User:Daniel1212|Daniel1212]] 20:14, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
 
:::My careful statement was that Jesus and the apostles certain fit the description of Christians who hold to the evangelical fundamentals, and are manifestly committed to them.  If this suffices as defining a fundamentalist then it should be able to be used for them. Certainly Jesus believed in the virgin birth, and the infallibility and inerrancy of Scripture, His blood atonement and resurrection, and salvation by grace, and took such stories as Jonah and the fish as literally true, and was committed to heart and doctrinal purity. Whether He intended musical instruments for the church i know not, and am certain the time of the rapture is not an essential. But i do believe He upheld and  appealed to the reality of eternal torment, and upheld the moral laws of the O.T, except to intensify them even more. But His spirit was not that which Fred Phelps so often has displayed, much less than men like the liberal Catholic priest Daniel Helminiak, who disallows fundamentalists from being Christians, due to their opposition to homosexuality. [[User:Daniel1212|Daniel1212]] 20:14, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
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::belief #1 of Fundamentalists = Bible = literally true & inerrant. Jesus never said that. Indeed, the Bible never says that.  Jesus did not say anything about the Virgin Birth either. Nor did Jesus mention the material in Revelation. Lots of Christian theology emerged after his death (from Paul, for example) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:35, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
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