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:::::::::::: Any object which is completely contained in a Schwarzschild radius is automatically a black hole, regardless of whether or not it has collapsed into a singularity or not.  Furthermore, since the gravitation field exterior to the schwarzschild radius would be the same regardless of where the mass inside was a singularity or not, so there would be no way to tell.
 
:::::::::::: Any object which is completely contained in a Schwarzschild radius is automatically a black hole, regardless of whether or not it has collapsed into a singularity or not.  Furthermore, since the gravitation field exterior to the schwarzschild radius would be the same regardless of where the mass inside was a singularity or not, so there would be no way to tell.
 
::::::::::: I still think the best argument for falsifiability is the experiment I presented earlier into quark degeneracy pressure. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 12:18, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
 
::::::::::: I still think the best argument for falsifiability is the experiment I presented earlier into quark degeneracy pressure. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 12:18, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
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:::::::::::: I was not aware of a hypothesis that offers a possibility of quark degeneracy pressure that would be powerful enough to resist the effects of gravity even if the mass would normally be large enough to collapse into a black hole.  I agree if such pressure existed it would disprove our current theories of black hole formation. 
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:::::::::::: You are right, it doesn't have to be a singularity, although that is what current theories suggest happens, that gravity continues to collapse the matter inside the event horizon to the point of a singularity.[http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/Cyberia/NumRel/BlackHoleAnat.html]  However that does not have to be true for the mass to collapse within the Schwarzschild radius to be a black hole, just that their is sufficient gravity to force particles within the horizon to be deformed in their path so they cannot leave.  It is just theorized at the center of a black hole is the singularity[http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/singularity.html].  That being said, it expected that a theory of quantum gravity will feature black holes without singularities.[http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bh_hawk.html] [http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/980420b.html].  It isn't important either way, what is important is the question, are black holes falsifiable?  I think you and others have already offered examples of yes. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 13:23, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
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