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:As for RoyL, I never heard a word from him, so I assume he was indeed socking it up and creating another user account. If a good contributor here (like yourself, Patrick) is IP blocked, they need to contact the Administrator who did the block, because they can be exempted from the IP range block. Perhaps I was completely wrong in my thinking, as were the other Admins, in assuming someone caught up in such a "Catch-22" situation would automatically contact us about it. Indeed, you expressing a worry about being caught up in that, seems to take the perhaps out of it. If there is something you would like me to move, replace or edit, let me know. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 19:49, 10 August 2009 (EDT)
:As for RoyL, I never heard a word from him, so I assume he was indeed socking it up and creating another user account. If a good contributor here (like yourself, Patrick) is IP blocked, they need to contact the Administrator who did the block, because they can be exempted from the IP range block. Perhaps I was completely wrong in my thinking, as were the other Admins, in assuming someone caught up in such a "Catch-22" situation would automatically contact us about it. Indeed, you expressing a worry about being caught up in that, seems to take the perhaps out of it. If there is something you would like me to move, replace or edit, let me know. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 19:49, 10 August 2009 (EDT)
I agree that Roger is an excellent source for mathematical material, but I have two reservations. First, "It's the principle of the thing." I hate that phrase as much as anyone. But you seem to be saying that my needs to have someone to talk to can be met by talking to him alone. Presumably because, being Andy's brother, he is immune from being blocked. But I want to talk to the whole community of math contributors. There are a lot of hard-working, conscientious, well-qualified contributors, willing to donate their time and expertise to this project. Second, Roger is not actually very active in this area. Perhaps he should be, but he isn't. Almost all contributions to math articles were made by us peons. Could Roger have stepped into the curl and divergence pages and done a better job than RoyL? Probably. Could he have stepped into the real analysis page and done a better job than me? Probably. Could he have stepped into the homotopy page and done a better job than MarkGall? Probably. But he didn't do any of these things.
Now there's something else about the RoyL situation that I find troubling. You say "I never heard a word from him, so I assume he was indeed socking it up". You ''assumed''? You didn't ''know for sure''? Looking through the block log, your block comments seem to indicate that you know what you are doing, and never (well, hardly ever) make mistakes. And now you say that you did a block that you weren't sure of, and looked to his response or non-response as corroborating evidence.
I think people are a lot more easily frightened away than you may realize. It's possible that RoyL and RogerS simply gave up. Furthermore you might consider the possibility that multiple different people might live in the same household, and each have accounts, without being "meatpuppets" of each other. RoyL's edits all seem to me to be perfectly responsible and reasonable, and almost entirely on mathematical or scientific subjects. RogerS's edits also seem to be responsible and reasonable, though perhaps on more controversial topics. So ask yourself this: Why on Earth would one person create two "sockpuppet" accounts, or two people working in concert create two "meatpuppet" accounts, at the same time? What abuse of Conservapedia's principles could they possibly have been trying to perpetrate? Sockpuppet accounts, so called, are created for the purpose of evading a block for cause. If RogerS had made offensive edits and gotten blocked, and RoyL had appeared the next day from the same IP address making similar edits, that would be a fairly clear case of sockpuppetry. But in this case there's a much more benign explanation. Blocking them, and then taking their silence as a confession of guilt, was the wrong thing. You could have asked them.
I wanted to contact RoyL by email, but his user page and talk page were deleted. He may not have enabled mail anyway.
I will try to be less easily frightened in the future. :-) And, if an accident occurs, I will try to be proactive about using mail. [[User:PatrickD|PatrickD]] 21:44, 15 August 2009 (EDT)