| | :: Well Pagels cites the fact some of the words and references he uses, in the context of the revolt, take on a different connotation. For example, Jesus remarks that he was arrested like a common thief or bandit when the same word has been found to refer to seditionists. Another specific examples is the portrayal of Pontius Pilate as a judge who isn't nearly so much to blame as the Jews. This, in the context of the revolt, shows Mark writing while bearing in the the Romans would read his work. This angle is highlighted by other accounts of Pilate (non-biblical ones) depicting him as a cruel judge that was so unjust that he'd often crucify without trial. What I'm getting at is that although the bible contains the message of Christ our savior the Bible has passed through the pen of man, the motivations of man, and the history of man so I've always believed certain aspects of date/time/scale may be inaccurate. However such things don't truly dilute the message of Christ so it seems important to contextualize the message in the messengers and their environment. Yeah, sorry for the ramble. As for drafts I'm not sure the Gospel of Mark would have been written in the form of drafts. I figure the author, who may be the "Mark" we know, took notes over a long period and eventually compiled them for publication but was also very aware of events during his time. That meant writing while keeping in mind the Romans were looking for undercover seditionists, the Jewish Priests were gunning to put down the dissenting Christians, and with emphasis on the larger picture of Christ not actually being dead. --[[User:Sardonac|Sardonac]] | | :: Well Pagels cites the fact some of the words and references he uses, in the context of the revolt, take on a different connotation. For example, Jesus remarks that he was arrested like a common thief or bandit when the same word has been found to refer to seditionists. Another specific examples is the portrayal of Pontius Pilate as a judge who isn't nearly so much to blame as the Jews. This, in the context of the revolt, shows Mark writing while bearing in the the Romans would read his work. This angle is highlighted by other accounts of Pilate (non-biblical ones) depicting him as a cruel judge that was so unjust that he'd often crucify without trial. What I'm getting at is that although the bible contains the message of Christ our savior the Bible has passed through the pen of man, the motivations of man, and the history of man so I've always believed certain aspects of date/time/scale may be inaccurate. However such things don't truly dilute the message of Christ so it seems important to contextualize the message in the messengers and their environment. Yeah, sorry for the ramble. As for drafts I'm not sure the Gospel of Mark would have been written in the form of drafts. I figure the author, who may be the "Mark" we know, took notes over a long period and eventually compiled them for publication but was also very aware of events during his time. That meant writing while keeping in mind the Romans were looking for undercover seditionists, the Jewish Priests were gunning to put down the dissenting Christians, and with emphasis on the larger picture of Christ not actually being dead. --[[User:Sardonac|Sardonac]] |
| | + | ::: 2000 years ago people were much ''less'' politically sensitive than they are today, as there was no "media" then. Even today, with all the media, many person care little about political subtleties. I doubt half of Americans even know who the Vice President is, for good reason. Attempts to explain or distort writings by average people like Mark based on politics are without evidence or justification. So I politely decline your attempt to put a political gloss on Mark's candid, simple, and straightforward eyewitness account.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:07, 16 August 2009 (EDT) |