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I don't understand these significant advantages. No proof ever assumes that there is a unique, algebraically manipulable square root of negative one. There are two such roots, and there is no need to assume anything because the proofs are given in field theory textbooks. Elementary proofs are not necessarily any harder to simplify. A sophicated non-elementary proof might be only 2 lines long, and thus impossible to simplify except by removing reliance on other work. The axiom of choice is not any less rigorous than any other axiom. The whole article is nonsensical. You seem to want to suggest that some proofs are more rigorous than other proofs, but that is just not true at all. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 22:27, 26 August 2009 (EDT)
 
I don't understand these significant advantages. No proof ever assumes that there is a unique, algebraically manipulable square root of negative one. There are two such roots, and there is no need to assume anything because the proofs are given in field theory textbooks. Elementary proofs are not necessarily any harder to simplify. A sophicated non-elementary proof might be only 2 lines long, and thus impossible to simplify except by removing reliance on other work. The axiom of choice is not any less rigorous than any other axiom. The whole article is nonsensical. You seem to want to suggest that some proofs are more rigorous than other proofs, but that is just not true at all. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 22:27, 26 August 2009 (EDT)
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:You're denying the significance of [[elementary proofs]], for which a Fields Medal has been awarded and to which Paul Erdos and many number theorists have been dedicated.  But your denial does not address the substance.  An elementary proof does rely on fewer assumptions than a non-elementary proof.  There's no way around that fact, and it is significant.
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:The view that "all proofs are equivalent no matter what theories they use" may be appealing to some, but it does not withstand scrutiny.  Proofs relying on fewer assumptions are obviously preferable.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:44, 26 August 2009 (EDT)
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