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:: The more important translation is the "first shall be last, and the last shall be first."  People don't understand that English phrase, and think greater clarity in the English would be helpful.  I made a suggestion in one of its appearances after some thought, along the lines of the "highest position among men shall be last, and the last the shall be first."  But suggestions are welcome, as the essence of this project is to bring out the best from many to obtain an optimal translation as of 2009.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 08:51, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
 
:: The more important translation is the "first shall be last, and the last shall be first."  People don't understand that English phrase, and think greater clarity in the English would be helpful.  I made a suggestion in one of its appearances after some thought, along the lines of the "highest position among men shall be last, and the last the shall be first."  But suggestions are welcome, as the essence of this project is to bring out the best from many to obtain an optimal translation as of 2009.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 08:51, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
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== Proposed man -> businessman ==
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In Mark's parable of the vineyard (12:1...), I've translated man as businessman, highlighting clarity which was absent in the greek.  Does this seem reasonable? [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 20:01, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
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