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| | :Can you supply a source for this assertion? Who (besides you) makes this argument? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 16:17, 27 March 2007 (EDT) | | :Can you supply a source for this assertion? Who (besides you) makes this argument? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 16:17, 27 March 2007 (EDT) |
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| | + | Sure, Ed. Although many prominent pro-evolution figures in the evolution creation debate |
| | + | believe ID is a new form of creationism, the only source I could easily find was Barbara |
| | + | Forrest’s expert report used in the Kitzmiller v Dover trial. I couldn’t find a copy |
| | + | online, but here is a part of the first paragraph. |
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| | + | "ID's rejection of naturalism in any form logically entails its appeal to the |
| | + | only alternative, supernaturalism, as a putatively scientific explanation for |
| | + | the natural phenomena. This makes ID a religious belief. In addition, my |
| | + | research reveals that ID is not science, but the newest variant of traditional |
| | + | American creationism. With only a few exceptions, it continues the usual |
| | + | complaints of creationists against the theory of evolution and comprises |
| | + | virtually all the elements of traditional creationism." |
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| | + | [[User:Land Dweller|Land Dweller]] 18:09, 28 March 2007 (EDT) |
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| | User:Miles, it’s true that it would be within the realm of science to investigate a space alien designer, but no prominent proponent of ID believes the designer is an alien. Nearly all of them believe it is God who is clearly supernatural. | | User:Miles, it’s true that it would be within the realm of science to investigate a space alien designer, but no prominent proponent of ID believes the designer is an alien. Nearly all of them believe it is God who is clearly supernatural. |