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::C'mon, Chavez is a power freak. He is a master manipulator who has Cidd11 defending a tyrant-wannabe results. Someone check if Wikipedia whitewashes the election. Someone see if Carter gave his stamp of approval.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 12:12, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
::C'mon, Chavez is a power freak. He is a master manipulator who has Cidd11 defending a tyrant-wannabe results. Someone check if Wikipedia whitewashes the election. Someone see if Carter gave his stamp of approval.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 12:12, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Here's a source from a left-wing rag (Washington Post) which hints at election fraud [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4208-2004Aug16.html], as well as the numbers cited in the source you removed. Others [http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/2/15/144227.shtml][http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122748875503551983.html][http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=33175]. Cidd11, if you also don't feel obligated to provide proof, as you said, of anything that could help this or any other article, then why should you feel obligated to ''remove'' anything in any article? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 12:22, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Here's a source from a left-wing rag (Washington Post) which hints at election fraud [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4208-2004Aug16.html], as well as the numbers cited in the source you removed. Others [http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/2/15/144227.shtml][http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122748875503551983.html][http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=33175]. Cidd11, if you also don't feel obligated to provide proof, as you said, of anything that could help this or any other article, then why should you feel obligated to ''remove'' anything in any article? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 12:22, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
If your attempting to prove this "election fraud" with media rants and unsourced news articles you go a long way from promoting facts. As I have said you are not providong any reliable sources to his election fraud other than these rants. I can give you the election results from the Venezuelan government (to which may I say ''again'' no one in Venezuela disputes the results. Perhaps members of the right-wing media but other wise it is a legitimate election) though i doubt you will give them any stock. I can provide you with sources saying he was elected freely. But they are not conservative or liberal. Honestly please try not to inject a useless bias into this discussion just because you wish to brand him a dictator. All I am pointing out is that you are not using any facts to back up this claim other than biased anti-Chavez news articles! I don't care whose liberal and whose not! I simply cannot support a lie!--[[User:Cidd11|Cidd11]] 13:16, 20 October 2009 (EDT)