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:Can you supply a source for this assertion? Who (besides you) makes this argument? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 16:17, 27 March 2007 (EDT)
 
:Can you supply a source for this assertion? Who (besides you) makes this argument? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 16:17, 27 March 2007 (EDT)
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    Sure, Ed.  Although many prominent pro-evolution figures in the evolution creation debate
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::Sure, Ed.  Although many prominent pro-evolution figures in the evolution creation debate believe ID is a new form of creationism, the only source I could easily find was Barbara Forrest’s expert report used in the Kitzmiller v Dover trial.  I couldn’t find a copy online, but here is a part of the first paragraph.
    believe ID is a new form of creationism, the only source I could easily find was Barbara
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    Forrest’s expert report used in the Kitzmiller v Dover trial.  I couldn’t find a copy
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    online, but here is a part of the first paragraph.
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        "ID's rejection of naturalism in any form logically entails its appeal to the
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::"ID's rejection of naturalism in any form logically entails its appeal to the only
        only alternative, supernaturalism, as a putatively scientific explanation for
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alternative, supernaturalism, as a putatively scientific explanation for the natural
        the natural phenomena.  This makes ID a religious belief.  In addition, my
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phenomena.  This makes ID a religious belief.  In addition, my research reveals that ID
        research reveals that ID is not science, but the newest variant of traditional
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is not science, but the newest variant of traditional American creationism.  With only
        American creationism.  With only a few exceptions, it continues the usual
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a few exceptions, it continues the usual complaints of creationists against the theory
        complaints of creationists against the theory of evolution and comprises
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of evolution and comprises virtually all the elements of traditional creationism."
        virtually all the elements of traditional creationism."
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    [[User:Land Dweller|Land Dweller]] 18:09, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
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::[[User:Land Dweller|Land Dweller]] 18:09, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
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      Oops!  Somehow I turned on this boxed format.
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:::Oops!  Somehow I turned on this boxed format. [[User:Land Dweller|Land Dweller]] 18:14, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
        [[User:Land Dweller|Land Dweller]] 18:14, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
       
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