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→‎General Reply to Jamesmackenzie: If you don't know about animals fleeing to high ground ''before'' a tsunami hits the shoreline, then open your mind and learn about it first.
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::::James, first, it's obvious you didn't read the Biblical description of the Great Flood.  What does Genesis 7:11 say?  The "fountains of the great deep broken up" is tectonic action employed when a fault exposes an underground water source under pressure.  And for the most part animals and people end up dead due to flooding, and how many fossils were ''not'' found in sedimentary (sedimentary means "water-laid") rocks?  Second, you're restricting yourself to DNA haplotypes as written on a blackboard, yet refusing to see first-hand that living organisms can and do multiply very rapidly from a very few into thousands or more in a short period of time.  Rats, mice, rabbits, salmon, sardines, pigeons, ants, and cockroaches do it.  Want an example of a large animal doing it as well?  Plains bison herds in the country number about 45,000; a century ago they numbered less than 100.  Sounds like a traditional small gene pool to me.  And third, evolutionists are always changing their story, and it's always going to be any story ''except'' Adam and Eve.  What is it now?  Some monkey named "Ardi"?  Two years ago it was "Lucy"; before that it was another ''Australopithicus''; before that it was good'ol Piltdown; before that it was Darwin's face mounted to a chimp.
 
::::James, first, it's obvious you didn't read the Biblical description of the Great Flood.  What does Genesis 7:11 say?  The "fountains of the great deep broken up" is tectonic action employed when a fault exposes an underground water source under pressure.  And for the most part animals and people end up dead due to flooding, and how many fossils were ''not'' found in sedimentary (sedimentary means "water-laid") rocks?  Second, you're restricting yourself to DNA haplotypes as written on a blackboard, yet refusing to see first-hand that living organisms can and do multiply very rapidly from a very few into thousands or more in a short period of time.  Rats, mice, rabbits, salmon, sardines, pigeons, ants, and cockroaches do it.  Want an example of a large animal doing it as well?  Plains bison herds in the country number about 45,000; a century ago they numbered less than 100.  Sounds like a traditional small gene pool to me.  And third, evolutionists are always changing their story, and it's always going to be any story ''except'' Adam and Eve.  What is it now?  Some monkey named "Ardi"?  Two years ago it was "Lucy"; before that it was another ''Australopithicus''; before that it was good'ol Piltdown; before that it was Darwin's face mounted to a chimp.
 
::::Honestly, James, we've been through this many times with many others in the past, and all you're doing is putting the same old spin on the same old story.  It's been debunked thoroughly on every point; it fails the [[Scientific method]] because you can't even get past that first step; and from what I've read from the above, you're just accepting evolution and old-earth stories at face value without even trying to investigate at least ''one'' aspect of them to see whether or not it's even true.  From where I stand, you have to prove it's true.  So please, go ahead and do exactly that.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 01:43, 5 November 2009 (EST)
 
::::Honestly, James, we've been through this many times with many others in the past, and all you're doing is putting the same old spin on the same old story.  It's been debunked thoroughly on every point; it fails the [[Scientific method]] because you can't even get past that first step; and from what I've read from the above, you're just accepting evolution and old-earth stories at face value without even trying to investigate at least ''one'' aspect of them to see whether or not it's even true.  From where I stand, you have to prove it's true.  So please, go ahead and do exactly that.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 01:43, 5 November 2009 (EST)
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::::James, your massive essay is unresponsive.  If you don't know about animals fleeing to high ground ''before'' a tsunami hits the shoreline, then open your mind and learn about it first.  Really, is that too much expect?  Instead, you seem to take a position of [[deliberate ignorance]], and then go on trying to disparage it anyway.  Even evolutionist sources (like PBS) admit that this phenomenon occurs, but lack any plausible materialistic explanation.
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::::As to massive flooding, materialists don't explain the survival of species through historic flooding any better than the Bible does.  So if you find the biblical explanation deficient, then by applying your same standard you'd find evolution even more deficient.  Instead, you use unproven speculation upon speculation to try to salvage your theory, while giving the biblical theory none of the same benefits of the doubt.  That's called a [[double standard]], an unattractive characteristic common to the [[liberal]] ideology.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:41, 5 November 2009 (EST)
    
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