Changes

Jump to navigation Jump to search
→‎Chapter 3, Verses 18-20: If Herod had an unlawful divorce from another woman, would translators be as reluctant to use the word "bigamy"?
Line 61: Line 61:     
::On verse 20: Nope-- "shut up" means two things in modern English, but the Greek κατακλείω only has the sense of 'incarcerate'. (Honestly, I don't think *any* reader could miss the fact that John criticises Herod and is silenced-- no need to belabour the point.)  [[User:AdeleM|AdeleM]] 15:30, 7 November 2009 (EST)
 
::On verse 20: Nope-- "shut up" means two things in modern English, but the Greek κατακλείω only has the sense of 'incarcerate'. (Honestly, I don't think *any* reader could miss the fact that John criticises Herod and is silenced-- no need to belabour the point.)  [[User:AdeleM|AdeleM]] 15:30, 7 November 2009 (EST)
 +
 +
:::You have good ideas and I've learned from this discussion.  I wonder why the Greek word κατακλείω could not mean "censor", especially since that is what was happening here.  I'll investigate further.
 +
 +
:::More generally, I think some of your efforts on verses 18-20 overly emphasize word-for-word translation at the expense of clarity of meaning.  If, for example,, "adultery" is the best word we have for verse 19, then isn't it better to use it than to obscure the point?  If Herod had an unlawful divorce from another woman, would translators be as reluctant to use the word "bigamy"?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:28, 7 November 2009 (EST)
Anthony, Irenaeus, Siteadmin, apieditor, Bureaucrats, Check users, nsAm_Govt_101RO, nsAm_Govt_101RW, nsAm_Govt_101_ta, nsJudgesRO, nsJudgesRW, nsJudges_talkRO, nsJudges_talkRW, nsTeam2RO, nsTeam2RW, nsTeam2_talkRO, nsTeam2_talkRW, oversight, Administrators
126,364

edits

Navigation menu