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Talk:Luke 1-8 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 23:10, November 7, 2009
, 23:10, November 7, 2009→Chapter 3, Verses 18-20
:::More generally, I think some of your efforts on verses 18-20 overly emphasize word-for-word translation at the expense of clarity of meaning. If, for example,, "adultery" is the best word we have for verse 19, then isn't it better to use it than to obscure the point? If Herod had an unlawful divorce from another woman, would translators be as reluctant to use the word "bigamy"?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:28, 7 November 2009 (EST)
:::More generally, I think some of your efforts on verses 18-20 overly emphasize word-for-word translation at the expense of clarity of meaning. If, for example,, "adultery" is the best word we have for verse 19, then isn't it better to use it than to obscure the point? If Herod had an unlawful divorce from another woman, would translators be as reluctant to use the word "bigamy"?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:28, 7 November 2009 (EST)
::::That's not quite it either. Herodias was lawfully divorced from Philip and free to marry, so her second marriage was neither bigamous nor adulterous. The issue was that it was forbidden to marry the brother of a former husband who was still living-- the prohibition is similar to the prohibition of incest. I'm not sure how to express this in the verse other than "unlawful" or perhaps "illicit". [[User:AdeleM|AdeleM]] 18:04, 7 November 2009 (EST)
::::That's not quite it either. Herodias was lawfully divorced from Philip and free to marry, so her second marriage was neither bigamous nor adulterous. The issue was that it was forbidden to marry the brother of a former husband who was still living-- the prohibition is similar to the prohibition of incest. I'm not sure how to express this in the verse other than "unlawful" or perhaps "illicit".
::::I'm not actually an absolute word-for-word enthusiast, but when it's straiightforward, I think we should keep it as straightforward as possible and save the interpolation for difficult passages. [[User:AdeleM|AdeleM]] 18:04, 7 November 2009 (EST)
::::Ah, just read your edit-- immoral also works, although illicit might be slightly better. [[User:AdeleM|AdeleM]] 18:05, 7 November 2009 (EST)
::::Ah, just read your edit-- immoral also works, although illicit might be slightly better. [[User:AdeleM|AdeleM]] 18:05, 7 November 2009 (EST)