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: Most evolutionists run from [[Counterexamples to evolution|facts that disprove their theory]], just as animals run to high ground before a tsunami hits shore.  No, that isn't random running from being "spooked" by some mysterious ultrasound, any more than chickens ''randomly'' return from distant places at the exact same point of nightfall each day, and jump into their chicken coop in the exact same order.  I know, you never heard that about chickens either.  There's much an evolutionist has "never heard of."  I urge to you open your mind and let logic in.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:13, 7 November 2009 (EST)
 
: Most evolutionists run from [[Counterexamples to evolution|facts that disprove their theory]], just as animals run to high ground before a tsunami hits shore.  No, that isn't random running from being "spooked" by some mysterious ultrasound, any more than chickens ''randomly'' return from distant places at the exact same point of nightfall each day, and jump into their chicken coop in the exact same order.  I know, you never heard that about chickens either.  There's much an evolutionist has "never heard of."  I urge to you open your mind and let logic in.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:13, 7 November 2009 (EST)
 
::In answer to his #6, he's implying that water underground is steamy-hot, as well as a figment of my imagination.  If he'd pay more attention to geology - specifically the geology of the Great Plains - he'd probably find mention of the Ogalalla Aquifer [http://www.npwd.org/Ogallala.htm], which is a remnant of the "waters of the great deep" bursting forth in Genesis.  In answer to his #5, I stated that twice above, but apparently he forgets that ''people get milk from cows''.  That's ''cows'', Dan; it means you tie Bessie to the hitching post, grab a small stool, and sit for an hour filling a wooden bucket.  It's where milk came from in the days before people went Krogering.  Remember, Andy, that these people expect and demand that we accept whatever explanation science has to offer - and that's ''any explanation except the Bible''.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:55, 8 November 2009 (EST)
 
::In answer to his #6, he's implying that water underground is steamy-hot, as well as a figment of my imagination.  If he'd pay more attention to geology - specifically the geology of the Great Plains - he'd probably find mention of the Ogalalla Aquifer [http://www.npwd.org/Ogallala.htm], which is a remnant of the "waters of the great deep" bursting forth in Genesis.  In answer to his #5, I stated that twice above, but apparently he forgets that ''people get milk from cows''.  That's ''cows'', Dan; it means you tie Bessie to the hitching post, grab a small stool, and sit for an hour filling a wooden bucket.  It's where milk came from in the days before people went Krogering.  Remember, Andy, that these people expect and demand that we accept whatever explanation science has to offer - and that's ''any explanation except the Bible''.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:55, 8 November 2009 (EST)
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:::First off, it's not some mysterious ultrasound. It's infrasound, and it's completely different. It is emitted by tsunami waves and is very well documented as causing signs of discomfort and fear in animals and even human beings, though we cannot consciously detect it. So why do the chickens return? It isn't some combination of sense of smell, homing using the sun, and possibly detecting the earth's magnetic field (which many birds do)? Is it the hand of God, who somehow forgot to warn the people about the tsunami? It's just the animals? Stories about animals being impressive do not disprove evolution in any way.
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:::Evolution does not explain it because evolution is not a theory about surviving a flood that may or may not have occurred. Outside of the Biblical story, can anyone produce a single piece of physical and indisputable evidence? Karajou, you'd call any massive aquifer a remnant of the great flood, when it is perfectly explainable that the Ogalalla formed from water moving down through the soil and into the water table when the North American glaciers melted. If it resulted from a massive flood, wouldn't you expect to see aquifers like the Ogalalla (which, yes, I have heard of) all over the world? There aren't. And if the flood happened, as it was asserted earlier, when a fault broke Pangaea apart in a process like the seafloor spreading we see today, anything that would be released would come from the mantle as steam or superheated water that would boil on the surface. [[User:DanPugachev|DanPugachev]] 12:36, 8 November 2009 (EST)
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