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:::::::KSorenson, logic does not require so much verbosity.  If you have an experiment that would falsify the claim that black holes exist, let's hear it.  If not, then concede the obvious: black holes are not falsifiable.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:10, 12 November 2009 (EST)
 
:::::::KSorenson, logic does not require so much verbosity.  If you have an experiment that would falsify the claim that black holes exist, let's hear it.  If not, then concede the obvious: black holes are not falsifiable.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:10, 12 November 2009 (EST)
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::::::::Seriously? Have you really never heard of Gravity Probe B? The ''sole purpose'' of that experiment was to measure the geometry of space around the Earth, which is a ''direct test'' of both the Schwarzchild and Kerr solutions, which are the theoretical models that predict black holes. The data is still being analyzed, but the results so far indicate a very good correlation to predictions of the Schwarzchild solution, and error bars of about 15% for the much-more-difficult-to-measure frame dragging effect predicted by the Kerr solution. I wish we could have gotten more precise results from the frame-dragging data, but it was a first test after all.
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::::::::I'm sorry my reply was so "verbose," Aschlafly, but you make it so difficult to be succinct when there's so much you don't know.
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::::::::(Full disclosure: I contributed to that experiment when I was at Stanford, so I am not unbiased about being pleased it went so well.)--[[User:KSorenson|KSorenson]] 18:26, 12 November 2009 (EST)
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