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::::: I haven't had time to read the Clifford Will paper yet, and I don't think I've got the expertise to judge it well.  But, I think we've come to an agreement here:

::::: I haven't had time to read the Clifford Will paper yet, and I don't think I've got the expertise to judge it well.  But, I think we've come to an agreement here:

# Black holes themselves can't be falsified (except by surveying every cubic millimeter of space)

:::::# Black holes themselves can't be falsified (except by surveying every cubic millimeter of space)

# General relativity says they are possible.

:::::# General relativity says they are possible.

# General relativity is falsifiable (theoretically), but it's hard to falsify.

:::::# General relativity is falsifiable (theoretically), but it's hard to falsify.

# Therefore, the possibility of black-holes-as-specified-by-general-relativity is falsifiable.

:::::# Therefore, the possibility of black-holes-as-specified-by-general-relativity is falsifiable.

::::: As for why the media's pushing black holes - hey, they're interesting to read about!  Myself, by Occam's razor, I don't think any more explanation is needed.  As for why KSorenson and I are pushing them - I can't speak for KSorenson, but I'm trying to defend falsifiability and the concept of a scientific theory, just like (I think) you are:  general relativity is a legitimate scientific theory, because it can theoretically be falsified.

::::: As for why the media's pushing black holes - hey, they're interesting to read about!  Myself, by Occam's razor, I don't think any more explanation is needed.  As for why KSorenson and I are pushing them - I can't speak for KSorenson, but I'm trying to defend falsifiability and the concept of a scientific theory, just like (I think) you are:  general relativity is a legitimate scientific theory, because it can theoretically be falsified. -- [[User:EvanW|EvanW]] 12:15, 13 November 2009 (EST)