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:The quote was intended to provide meaningful context to the BSA's values and that of America in all its history, the differences between international scouting and the Boy Scouts of America. While it's true that Rush Limbaugh never did make Eagle Scout, he made it all the way through Cub Scouting and was a Tenderfoot in the BSA for a year. But the quote was suppose to be more about what it is saying rather than who is saying it; the BSA's mission is to prepare young men to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Law, which are guiding principles that have made America the great country that it is today. But if you feel strongly that it is more important to focus on the 'manliness' of scouting rather than what it's trying to teach young Americans, it's fine with me. [[User:DerekE|DerekE]] 21:51, 17 November 2009 (EST)
 
:The quote was intended to provide meaningful context to the BSA's values and that of America in all its history, the differences between international scouting and the Boy Scouts of America. While it's true that Rush Limbaugh never did make Eagle Scout, he made it all the way through Cub Scouting and was a Tenderfoot in the BSA for a year. But the quote was suppose to be more about what it is saying rather than who is saying it; the BSA's mission is to prepare young men to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Law, which are guiding principles that have made America the great country that it is today. But if you feel strongly that it is more important to focus on the 'manliness' of scouting rather than what it's trying to teach young Americans, it's fine with me. [[User:DerekE|DerekE]] 21:51, 17 November 2009 (EST)
 
::I read Rush's speech. his speechwriter is incompetent and let him down. We know a lot more about BSA than Rush does.  The article clearly covers both the explicit and the implict goals of the organization--and yes , they include masculinity. (it's the '''BOY''' scouts,after all.) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:39, 17 November 2009 (EST)
 
::I read Rush's speech. his speechwriter is incompetent and let him down. We know a lot more about BSA than Rush does.  The article clearly covers both the explicit and the implict goals of the organization--and yes , they include masculinity. (it's the '''BOY''' scouts,after all.) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:39, 17 November 2009 (EST)
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:::Haha--I do agree, Rush got off topic a bit too often. It took some combing through the speech to pick out the important parts. And you're are right, masculinity is definitely a major part of the scouting program; the activities, most of the merit badge requirements (aside from the Basket weaving merit badge), the competitive spirit, and the list goes on. Maybe there needs to be more info about the different merit badges and camping activities? There's a lot of different awards that can be earned, like the 50-100 mile hiking badge, and a ton of other various milestones that scouts can gain recognition for. So you're definitely correct - if there's more context to be added in the article it should be less generalizing and more specifics. [[User:DerekE|DerekE]] 23:01, 17 November 2009 (EST)
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