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Talk:John 8-14 (Translated) (view source)
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::: By the way, John 8:35 presents an entirely different issue: should the words of Jesus be translated with the term "slave"? By its context, He's not talking about English-style slavery.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:46, 19 November 2009 (EST)
::: By the way, John 8:35 presents an entirely different issue: should the words of Jesus be translated with the term "slave"? By its context, He's not talking about English-style slavery.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:46, 19 November 2009 (EST)
::::By western word definitions, "doulos" is more of a "bond-servant" than a slave. They were usually in slavery due to debts owed, and could often work their way out of that debt, and thus gain their freedom. We think of a slave in terms of the American version, where people were born into it, lived their life in it, and died slaves, with no realistic hope of ever gaining freedom. That is not what a doulos was, so my translation preference would be "servant" or "bond-servant." [[User:MBack|Michael Back]] 12:39, 20 November 2009 (EST)