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:Absolutely, yes, I think the second amendment should apply to state governments as well.  Since 1925's [[Gitlow v. New York]], and in a series of decisions since then, the Supreme Court has ruled that more and more of the restrictions on federal law enumerated by the bill of rights also restrict state government.  Soon, we can expect incorporation of the second amendment as a result of [[McDonald v. Chicago]], which has been accepted to the Supreme Court and will be decided sometime in 2010.

:Absolutely, yes, I think the second amendment should apply to state governments as well.  Since 1925's [[Gitlow v. New York]], and in a series of decisions since then, the Supreme Court has ruled that more and more of the restrictions on federal law enumerated by the bill of rights also restrict state government.  Soon, we can expect incorporation of the second amendment as a result of [[McDonald v. Chicago]], which has been accepted to the Supreme Court and will be decided sometime in 2010.

:As to whether this was the framers intent, I think not.  That is to say, I don't believe their intent was that the second amendment should apply to the states, but I do think their intent was that there would be no law preventing citizens from owning guns - they simply didn't think that a state might wish to outlaw it.  Modern liberalness couldn't have been foreseen back then, and so the pretexts of the modern anti-gun lobby couldn't have been, either.   

:As to whether this was the framers intent, I think not.  That is to say, I don't believe their intent was that the second amendment should apply to the states, but I do think their intent was that there would be no law preventing citizens from owning guns - they simply didn't think that a state might wish to outlaw it.  Modern liberalness couldn't have been foreseen back then, and so the pretexts of the modern anti-gun lobby couldn't have been, either.  The only objection to an armed citizenry they could foresee was that of an oppressive government not wishing for citizens capable of defending themselves.

:The textual basis for incorporation stems from the 14th amendment.  While the 14th amendment has been abused a thousand times in American legal history, and while ruling that the second amendment applies to states would be, I suppose, "activist," in a very literal definition of the word, it would be very much in the spirit of the constitution and it would move America closer to what she was meant to be. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 21:38, 22 November 2009 (EST)

:The textual basis for incorporation stems from the 14th amendment.  While the 14th amendment has been abused a thousand times in American legal history, and while ruling that the second amendment applies to states would be, I suppose, "activist," in a very literal definition of the word, it would be very much in the spirit of the constitution and it would move America closer to what she was meant to be. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 21:38, 22 November 2009 (EST)