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Talk:Theory of relativity (view source)
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, 05:25, November 24, 2009→Relativity is not a "liberal" theory
As a physics major I must strongly protest to the implication that relativity is a "liberal" theory. Relativity has had many experimental proofs, and is one of the soundest theories in modern physics. There is simply no realistic reason to believe it is not sound. And I do not know where the idea came that the university would squelch opposition to it because it was not liberal. There is no political reason one way or the other for one to view it as right or wrong. The theory stands on it's own merits. <small>(by Jfraatz)</small>
As a physics major I must strongly protest to the implication that relativity is a "liberal" theory. Relativity has had many experimental proofs, and is one of the soundest theories in modern physics. There is simply no realistic reason to believe it is not sound. And I do not know where the idea came that the university would squelch opposition to it because it was not liberal. There is no political reason one way or the other for one to view it as right or wrong. The theory stands on it's own merits. <small>(by Jfraatz)</small>
:No idea? Perhaps, just ''perhaps'' you should read the ''ample discussion of these very matters sitting above on this very page.'' [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 17:14, 23 November 2009 (EST)
:No idea? Perhaps, just ''perhaps'' you should read the ''ample discussion of these very matters sitting above on this very page.'' [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 17:14, 23 November 2009 (EST)
Your sarcasm is noted Douglas, and let me add mine. I've reviewed some of this now and to be quite frank this is a titanic monument of hogwash. It's rather embarrassing that this is on Conservapedia. The discussion above demonstrates that a lot of people here don't know what they are talking about. Several physics people tried to give explanations and show you what was wrong, but you seemed to dismiss there arguments.
Let me point out a few problems here:
First of all non-locality does not contradict relativity. Non-locality does not transmit information, and our latest knowledge of it suggests that it could be related to a sort of "quantum phase velocity" -like a wave in a stadium. It appears because the structure that it is connected to says that when one thing happens another thing must happen because they are both connected to a structure. The objects are not interact on each other directly though.
Secondly, variance in the speed of light does not contradict relativity. Relativity just says you can't go faster than the speed of light in your space-time metric. That does not say however that you can not tamper with vacuum properties of the space-time metric at the quantum level to tinker around with that constant.
Thirdly, there is massive evidence for relativity. The best example would be in particle accelerators. Most subatomic particles decay in a fraction of a second. They are able to keep them alive however for many many seconds to do experiments by accelerating them close to the speed of light and thereby exploiting time dilation. The particles age at a much slower rate from the perspective of the outside reference frame and thus we are able to experiment on them.
Your tone was rather rude before. My major is physics and I've taken a grad level course in relativity, and no offense but I strongly suspect you simply don't know what you are talking about. We'll see though. ----[[User:jfraatz|Johanan Raatz]]
:Relativity predicts absurd physical discontinuities and it contradicts logic, the evidence, and the Bible. The biggest promoters of relativity today are more liberal than the Democratic Party, and that's saying a lot. Promoting relativity causes a great deal of harm in how people view the world, and has cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars on fruitless projects like LIGO.
:Relativity predicts absurd physical discontinuities and it contradicts logic, the evidence, and the Bible. The biggest promoters of relativity today are more liberal than the Democratic Party, and that's saying a lot. Promoting relativity causes a great deal of harm in how people view the world, and has cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars on fruitless projects like LIGO.
:You've heard none of this before because liberals control universities and don't allow open discussion and debate about their pet theories. Perhaps you think man-made global warming is not a liberal theory either?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:20, 23 November 2009 (EST)
:You've heard none of this before because liberals control universities and don't allow open discussion and debate about their pet theories. Perhaps you think man-made global warming is not a liberal theory either?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:20, 23 November 2009 (EST)