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→Eden: The serpent and God: Excellent point, but the serpent did overstate the reward from eating the fruit, wouldn't you say?
The serpent doesn't actually deceive Eve. In Genesis 3:22 God acknowledges that "the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil". Compare that to what the serpent claims in Genesis 3:5: "ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil". God even speaks of himself as "us", corresponding to the serpent's "gods". If anything, there's deceit by God: He wrongly claims eating the fruit is lethal (Genesis 2:17: "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.") in order to prevent man becoming god-like. (I'm aware of the claim that God refers to the separation of Adam from God, but that seems to be a matter of interpretation; God doesn't say "you will be exiled", as he easily could have said. Anyway, exile is not a direct consequence of eating the fruit, it's a preventative measure by God that he need not have taken.) [[User:Yoritomo|Yoritomo]] 22:11, 27 November 2009 (EST)
The serpent doesn't actually deceive Eve. In Genesis 3:22 God acknowledges that "the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil". Compare that to what the serpent claims in Genesis 3:5: "ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil". God even speaks of himself as "us", corresponding to the serpent's "gods". If anything, there's deceit by God: He wrongly claims eating the fruit is lethal (Genesis 2:17: "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.") in order to prevent man becoming god-like. (I'm aware of the claim that God refers to the separation of Adam from God, but that seems to be a matter of interpretation; God doesn't say "you will be exiled", as he easily could have said. Anyway, exile is not a direct consequence of eating the fruit, it's a preventative measure by God that he need not have taken.) [[User:Yoritomo|Yoritomo]] 22:11, 27 November 2009 (EST)
:Excellent point, but the serpent did overstate the reward from eating the fruit, wouldn't you say?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:19, 27 November 2009 (EST)