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Talk:John 1-7 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 19:33, November 29, 2009
, 19:33, November 29, 2009→Issue with translation of John 4:53: I agree
The current translation of "ὥρα" is "hour", but I feel that the context suggests that it should be "time" or "moment" in order to obtain greater precision. An hour has no significance here; the speaker wants to know if the illness was cured at the moment Jesus said it was. Using "hour" (and also "about") seems to introduce an imprecision that is not suggested by the context. Thanks for considering this.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:54, 28 November 2009 (EST)
The current translation of "ὥρα" is "hour", but I feel that the context suggests that it should be "time" or "moment" in order to obtain greater precision. An hour has no significance here; the speaker wants to know if the illness was cured at the moment Jesus said it was. Using "hour" (and also "about") seems to introduce an imprecision that is not suggested by the context. Thanks for considering this.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:54, 28 November 2009 (EST)
:I hope everyone had a nice holiday. I did. Mr. Schlafly, I don't know about imprecision so much as the KJV is needlessly wordy. 52 and 53 are merely saying that the rich man asked his servants what time his son's fever broke and learned that it was the same time that Jesus said "your son is alive." So "time" is a very good translation. - Cameron [[User:Cambrian|Cambrian]] 14:10, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:I hope everyone had a nice holiday. I did. Mr. Schlafly, I don't know about imprecision so much as the KJV is needlessly wordy. 52 and 53 are merely saying that the rich man asked his servants what time his son's fever broke and learned that it was the same time that Jesus said "your son is alive." So "time" is a very good translation. - Cameron [[User:Cambrian|Cambrian]] 14:10, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::I agree, though I think the ''second'' reference could be "moment rather than time. E.g., in popular discourse, "What time did you hear the news? That was at the same moment that I heard it!"--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:33, 29 November 2009 (EST)