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Talk:John 1-7 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 16:12, December 4, 2009
, 16:12, December 4, 2009→Logos = the Word: Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well
:"Living Word" for "λόγος" is really growing on me also. Truth has too much of a harsh edge to it in modern English, while "Living Word" has more of a dynamic, healing quality. Let's go with it!
:"Living Word" for "λόγος" is really growing on me also. Truth has too much of a harsh edge to it in modern English, while "Living Word" has more of a dynamic, healing quality. Let's go with it!
===Multiple gods?===
For discussion sake you might want to consider changing the last line in John 1:1 to "and the Word was a god."
For discussion sake you might want to consider changing the last line in John 1:1 to "and the Word was a god."
The Bible itself points out that Satan was the god of this world. He made that quite clear when he offered the kingdoms of the world to Jesus if he would only show an act of worship to him. So I am not talking about multiple gods, but rather one god. It's really quite simple.
The Bible itself points out that Satan was the god of this world. He made that quite clear when he offered the kingdoms of the world to Jesus if he would only show an act of worship to him. So I am not talking about multiple gods, but rather one god. It's really quite simple.
The Bible tells us that Jesus' sat at the right hand of God. How do you sit by your own right hand?
The Bible tells us that Jesus' sat at the right hand of God. How do you sit by your own right hand?
:Yes, the Scriptures sometimes use the term "God" ("Theos") to refer to [[God the Father]] - this is how Jesus is called "Son of God." Yet at the same time, He says, "I and the Father are one" - "one" being in the Greek neuter gender, meaning an actual unity, not simply "acting together," or "united in purpose," else He would have used the masculine gender. Therefore, [[Trinity|Jesus ''is'' God]].
:This is the uncontrovertable conclusion of both Testaments: "Sh'ma Ysrael YHVH Eloheinu YHVH echad", "Hear O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD, is one." Similarly, "Ye are My witnesses, saith the LORD... before Me there was no god formed, neither shall there be after Me... I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you." (Is 43:10-12). And, "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well..." (James 2:19)
:I believe this is what Andy Schlafly was talking about when he said, "The context is one God, not multiple gods" - in the original texts, as well as many English translations. We presume that the Holy Spirit Who inspired the Gospel is self-consistent and would not have the "original intent" to speak in John 1 of multiple gods when He repeatedly denied multiple gods' existence.
:--[[User:EvanW|EvanW]] 11:12, 4 December 2009 (EST)
== Truth or word ==
== Truth or word ==