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==Causation itself is unnecessary==
 
==Causation itself is unnecessary==
 
Causation isn't even a part of modern physics.  Physics, at least when it is being precise, speaks of the relations between physical objects, not of causes with effects.  These attempts to prove the existence of God are ultimately just sophistry and they will convince no one.  Read Matthew 13. --[[User:Andy|Andy]] 12:18, 17 November 2007 (EST)
 
Causation isn't even a part of modern physics.  Physics, at least when it is being precise, speaks of the relations between physical objects, not of causes with effects.  These attempts to prove the existence of God are ultimately just sophistry and they will convince no one.  Read Matthew 13. --[[User:Andy|Andy]] 12:18, 17 November 2007 (EST)
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Just because you can't see a cause does not mean it does not exist, only we have no way to presently find it. God does not exist only in the physical world but the supernatural too. This is a world we know little if anything of the way it works. There is plenty of witness accounts of this world from foretune tellers, ghost stories to out of body experiences and more. Unless you want to discount them because they just don't fit the rest of the story.
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