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If your attempting to prove this "election fraud" with media rants and unsourced news articles you go a long way from promoting facts. As I have said you are not providong any reliable sources to his election fraud other than these rants. I can give you the election results from the Venezuelan government (to which may I say ''again'' no one in Venezuela disputes the results. Perhaps members of the right-wing media but other wise it is a legitimate election) though i doubt you will give them any stock. I can provide you with sources saying he was elected freely. But they are not conservative or liberal. Honestly please try not to inject a useless bias into this discussion just because you wish to brand him a dictator. All I am pointing out is that you are not using any facts to back up this claim other than biased anti-Chavez news articles! I don't care whose liberal and whose not! I simply cannot support a lie!--[[User:Cidd11|Cidd11]] 13:16, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
 
If your attempting to prove this "election fraud" with media rants and unsourced news articles you go a long way from promoting facts. As I have said you are not providong any reliable sources to his election fraud other than these rants. I can give you the election results from the Venezuelan government (to which may I say ''again'' no one in Venezuela disputes the results. Perhaps members of the right-wing media but other wise it is a legitimate election) though i doubt you will give them any stock. I can provide you with sources saying he was elected freely. But they are not conservative or liberal. Honestly please try not to inject a useless bias into this discussion just because you wish to brand him a dictator. All I am pointing out is that you are not using any facts to back up this claim other than biased anti-Chavez news articles! I don't care whose liberal and whose not! I simply cannot support a lie!--[[User:Cidd11|Cidd11]] 13:16, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
 
:Now you're calling the above sources "media rants", as if you are determining what is news and what is not.  You're also pushing to some degree the election results in Venezuela ''as provided by the Chavez-controlled Venezuelan government'' as though it was fact.  You're completely-ignoring Carter's role in this, and he's on record as supporting every socialistic/dictatorship government in which an election was disputed.  If you say that election fraud in Venezuela didn't happen, ''then you prove it'' by using the totally unbiased sources which you claim exist.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:32, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
 
:Now you're calling the above sources "media rants", as if you are determining what is news and what is not.  You're also pushing to some degree the election results in Venezuela ''as provided by the Chavez-controlled Venezuelan government'' as though it was fact.  You're completely-ignoring Carter's role in this, and he's on record as supporting every socialistic/dictatorship government in which an election was disputed.  If you say that election fraud in Venezuela didn't happen, ''then you prove it'' by using the totally unbiased sources which you claim exist.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:32, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
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I agree that some of the wording could be changed in the article. You suggest that is was a fair election because Carter says it was. That is nonsense. Carter is a racist Jew basher and an apologist for terrorists. His word is worth as much as a handful of dirt. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 01:14, 10 December 2009 (EST)
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