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| | ::::::::: (edit conflict) Actually, as reverted [[User:GrahamGore]] pointed out, scientists then considered the earth spherical - and they actually had a better idea of its size than Columbus, and they knew he couldn't get to Asia - what they didn't know was that America was in the way. I think a better example would be bloodletting: the scientific consensus for ages was that it helped patients, when it actually was hurting them. --[[User:EvanW|EvanW]] 13:26, 11 December 2009 (EST) | | ::::::::: (edit conflict) Actually, as reverted [[User:GrahamGore]] pointed out, scientists then considered the earth spherical - and they actually had a better idea of its size than Columbus, and they knew he couldn't get to Asia - what they didn't know was that America was in the way. I think a better example would be bloodletting: the scientific consensus for ages was that it helped patients, when it actually was hurting them. --[[User:EvanW|EvanW]] 13:26, 11 December 2009 (EST) |
| | ::::::::::I mentioned the consensus of 1491; the previous troll went to an ''an hominem'' - and completely ignorant - argument immediately upon entering the site. As far as user WideAngle goes, he dosn't come here and make demands of us to answer his questions when he knows full well that it has been answered many times within these articles and talk pages. Now I have a question of him, and he will answer: explain the "philosophical underpinnings of a wiki" and how it's supposed to be different from everything else, and why we must conform to that explanation. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:32, 11 December 2009 (EST) | | ::::::::::I mentioned the consensus of 1491; the previous troll went to an ''an hominem'' - and completely ignorant - argument immediately upon entering the site. As far as user WideAngle goes, he dosn't come here and make demands of us to answer his questions when he knows full well that it has been answered many times within these articles and talk pages. Now I have a question of him, and he will answer: explain the "philosophical underpinnings of a wiki" and how it's supposed to be different from everything else, and why we must conform to that explanation. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:32, 11 December 2009 (EST) |
| | + | :::::::::::Since this site values conciseness, I'll be brief. I take the philosophical underpinnings of a wiki to be an investment in the idea that collaboration is the best way to produce knowledge. Rather than rely on "elite" gatekeepers, wikis rely on communal gatekeeping to establish knowledge. In other words, knowledge is formed from the bottom up, through compromise and consensus. I mentioned this in my first post, but I'll reiterate - how does this idea of publicly-formed knowledge (which, during his Colbert interview, Andy claimed was the goal of Conservapedia) fit with the kind of gatekeeping performed by the Conservapedia editors? I think it's obvious that Conservapedia is selective in presenting its facts, which is fine. Just don't claim that the site is truly user-generated. Also, if you could point me to an article that conclusively demonstrates that the Bible is the most logical book ever written, I'd be more than willing to read it. --[[User:WideAngle|WideAngle]] 16:12, 11 December 2009 (EST) |
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| | It's nice to finally have all of the fallacy, racism, sexism, and homophobia in one easily accessible place. I think my favorite thing about Conservapedia is the use of the Bible in what seems like every article (I haven't read every article so perhaps this is a gross generalization. But when it comes to, say, immigration is the Bible really the best source?) I will probably be using this website when I have to write papers on current situations. It will be a lot easier to just come here than to have to seek out the few religious right wingers I know for a quote. {{unsigned|Writerfish}} | | It's nice to finally have all of the fallacy, racism, sexism, and homophobia in one easily accessible place. I think my favorite thing about Conservapedia is the use of the Bible in what seems like every article (I haven't read every article so perhaps this is a gross generalization. But when it comes to, say, immigration is the Bible really the best source?) I will probably be using this website when I have to write papers on current situations. It will be a lot easier to just come here than to have to seek out the few religious right wingers I know for a quote. {{unsigned|Writerfish}} |