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::I will admit that no I do not spend equal time on the bible now. The Bible being the most logical book ever written is certainly a moot statement. If I were to only use one reference point as the base for my perception of the world then I would miss the valuable insight that other points of view offer, weather they be flawed or not. You don't have to agree with something in it's entirety to glean some fundamental knowledge. I find the bible to have sets of ethics and values that transcend dogma. At the same time, I don't believe science and its practices to be all knowing just a method by which to draw provisional conclusions. [[User:DaveGBx|DaveGBx]] 11:11, 14 December 2009 (EST)
 
::I will admit that no I do not spend equal time on the bible now. The Bible being the most logical book ever written is certainly a moot statement. If I were to only use one reference point as the base for my perception of the world then I would miss the valuable insight that other points of view offer, weather they be flawed or not. You don't have to agree with something in it's entirety to glean some fundamental knowledge. I find the bible to have sets of ethics and values that transcend dogma. At the same time, I don't believe science and its practices to be all knowing just a method by which to draw provisional conclusions. [[User:DaveGBx|DaveGBx]] 11:11, 14 December 2009 (EST)
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:::Dave, you have free will.  The Bible is like a good diet.  One can choose to ''never'' eat foods that are good for you, but the outcome is not pretty or desirable.  Put another way, you're not helping anyone by refusing to read the Bible, least of all yourself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:25, 14 December 2009 (EST)
    
== The most logical book ever written ==
 
== The most logical book ever written ==
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:Maybe you should read our essay, [[Essay:Quantifying Order]]. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 16:45, 14 December 2009 (EST)
 
:Maybe you should read our essay, [[Essay:Quantifying Order]]. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 16:45, 14 December 2009 (EST)
 
::The words ''logic'' or ''logical'' don't appear even once in that essay, it seems to be about ''order''.... [[User:FrankC|FrankC aka ComedyFan]] 17:00, 14 December 2009 (EST)
 
::The words ''logic'' or ''logical'' don't appear even once in that essay, it seems to be about ''order''.... [[User:FrankC|FrankC aka ComedyFan]] 17:00, 14 December 2009 (EST)
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:::The essay points out how there is nothing illogical about miracles, and you haven't provided anything illogical about them.  Miracles reflect greater order in a world plagued by disorder.  "Signs" is the better translation of the term for miracles ... signs of the greater underlying order.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:25, 14 December 2009 (EST)
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