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Talk:Essay: Logic and One View of Christianity (view source)
Revision as of 01:13, December 18, 2009
, 01:13, December 18, 2009→problems witht the use of "Logic"
: Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. If you accept the many premises as true, then the Christian teaching (at least as I understand it) follows logically. However, the premises themselves are not immune to questioning. I agree that this is not true formal logic. As I mentioned in the opening paragraphs, I'm using "logical" in the more colloquial sense of reasonable, sensible or persuasive. [[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 19:58, 17 December 2009 (EST)
: Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. If you accept the many premises as true, then the Christian teaching (at least as I understand it) follows logically. However, the premises themselves are not immune to questioning. I agree that this is not true formal logic. As I mentioned in the opening paragraphs, I'm using "logical" in the more colloquial sense of reasonable, sensible or persuasive. [[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 19:58, 17 December 2009 (EST)
: Or, to rephrase my approach in a more properly logical manner, a conclusion can be said to be true if the premises preceding it are true '''and''' if the argument is valid. The argument appears to be sound, so instead I am questioning the premises. [[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 20:04, 17 December 2009 (EST)
: Or, to rephrase my approach in a more properly logical manner, a conclusion can be said to be true if the premises preceding it are true '''and''' if the argument is valid. The argument appears to be sound, so instead I am questioning the premises. [[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 20:04, 17 December 2009 (EST)
::::Fair enough. Allow me to extrapolate the argument from your essay you are using so that we can see what the premises are that you dispute.
'' 1A God exists, who created the world and mankind,
2This God desires for mankind to dwell with Him in Heaven,
3This God dislikes some actions taken by man, and cannot allow men who have offended Him to enter Heaven,
4This God requires that retribution be made for these offenses,
5The only acceptable form of retribution is death,
6God refuses to forgive sins unless a blood sacrifice has been made.
7God sent His son down as a sacrifice
8This sacrifice remits all past present and future sins
9However in order to avail oneself of the sacrifice, one must have faith and belief in it ''
''Therefore Forgiveness is granted to those who believe that the sacrifice took place''
I think we agree that this is a logical argument. Please elaborate on which premise (1-8) you seek to deny.--[[User:PThomson|PThomson]] 20:13, 17 December 2009 (EST)