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Talk:Luke 1-8 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 01:32, December 21, 2009
, 01:32, December 21, 2009→Luke 7:24: some thoughts
:It's an intriguing mystery. Perhaps ἄνεμος means "the elements" here, and perhaps the entire sentence could be, "A staff broken by the elements?" The meaning could be rhetorical: surely you didn't go out there expecting to find evidence of a man defeated by the harshness of nature.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:54, 20 December 2009 (EST)
:It's an intriguing mystery. Perhaps ἄνεμος means "the elements" here, and perhaps the entire sentence could be, "A staff broken by the elements?" The meaning could be rhetorical: surely you didn't go out there expecting to find evidence of a man defeated by the harshness of nature.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:54, 20 December 2009 (EST)
::Kalamos refers to a reed or something made of reeds. Even when it refers to a staff, it's a reed staff. The reed staff is one of John's symbols. However, in the context of the subsequent verses, which emphasize a contrast (a well-dressed man?, no) or parallel (a prophet? yes) to the person of John, it strikes me that "a reed" is a fine translation for kalamos here. Anemos is a wind or gale. Saleuo here is a passive participle that I read as "shook" or "shaken." It seems to me that this sentence is written in the same sense as 25 in that it's meant rhetorically as a contrast to the person of John. I render the sentence exactly as the KJV: A reed shaken with the wind? He was literally as a reed being shaken by the wind while wandering in the desert, but he was also a prophet heralding the coming of Christ's ministry. [[User:Cambrian|Cambrian]] 20:32, 20 December 2009 (EST)