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:::::Is it possible there can  be an agreement on some type of format on those. Some politician entries use just first, last and others use all three.  As for his birth certificate. What level of proof is needed? Does one need to physically hold it, see a picture of it, or just know that someone else saw it and said it was valid?  To me it is valid and it is for the state of Hawaii, and also the federal government.  As for if I am a bigot or me being ignorant I have no idea what this is about. [[User:ShawnMost|ShawnMost]] 18:05, 23 December 2009 (EST)
 
:::::Is it possible there can  be an agreement on some type of format on those. Some politician entries use just first, last and others use all three.  As for his birth certificate. What level of proof is needed? Does one need to physically hold it, see a picture of it, or just know that someone else saw it and said it was valid?  To me it is valid and it is for the state of Hawaii, and also the federal government.  As for if I am a bigot or me being ignorant I have no idea what this is about. [[User:ShawnMost|ShawnMost]] 18:05, 23 December 2009 (EST)
 
Shawn, to answer your question, you are a bigot for your hatred of anti-Obamunism (we are not racists simply because we oppose socialism, despite what the media would have you believe) and ignorant because you blindly accept what you have been told without questioning it.  You're also a saboteur (intentional or not) by consuming the time of editors by engaging them in pointless debate.  I strongly suggest you examine the archives of this page before bringing up points.  Just about every conceivable form of liberal nonsense such as yours has been brought up and refuted.  Stop trying to waste peoples time.  [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 18:15, 23 December 2009 (EST)
 
Shawn, to answer your question, you are a bigot for your hatred of anti-Obamunism (we are not racists simply because we oppose socialism, despite what the media would have you believe) and ignorant because you blindly accept what you have been told without questioning it.  You're also a saboteur (intentional or not) by consuming the time of editors by engaging them in pointless debate.  I strongly suggest you examine the archives of this page before bringing up points.  Just about every conceivable form of liberal nonsense such as yours has been brought up and refuted.  Stop trying to waste peoples time.  [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 18:15, 23 December 2009 (EST)
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:::::::Just like, Jacob, all of the nonsense that has been brought up about Obama? If you hadn't noticed, it's all been dealt with, or, if I may use your language, has been brought up and refuted. Now stop wasting peoples time. He's the president. He will be for another three years (at least). And it doesn't matter how many times Orly Taitz makes an idiot out of herself, your dream of an election reversal will not happen. --[[User:DrewDice|DrewDice]] 18:30, 23 December 2009 (EST)
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