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This seems simultaneously excessive and simplistic. Erasmus, for example, was both pious and humanistic. --[[User:WOVcenter|WOVcenter]] 22:07, 10 March 2007 (EST)
This seems simultaneously excessive and simplistic. Erasmus, for example, was both pious and humanistic. --[[User:WOVcenter|WOVcenter]] 22:07, 10 March 2007 (EST)
I'm not entirely sure how to do it, but could this page be renamed "Secular Humanism" and a new article called "Humanism" or "Christian Humanism" be started? There was a movement in the Rennaisance called "Humanism" (that WOVcenter refers to in the prior comment) that wasn't atheistic, and that had major effects on European history.--[[User:Epicurius|Epicurius]] 19:55, 29 March 2007 (EDT)