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Debate:Can conservapedia become the next Wikipedia, is this good or bad (view source)
Revision as of 14:56, December 30, 2009
, 14:56, December 30, 2009no edit summary
The movement toward being as big as Wikipedia will be a tough road. We must follow Ezekiel 2:23 because the way it is written tells us how we can become great and rise above. The downfall of this site will be the sins of homosexuals in their quest to "gay" up the internet. We must work to keep this page solely conservative and keep it to inform the masses the right way, and be better than Liberal Wikipedia.
The movement toward being as big as Wikipedia will be a tough road. We must follow Ezekiel 2:23 because the way it is written tells us how we can become great and rise above. The downfall of this site will be the sins of homosexuals in their quest to "gay" up the internet. We must work to keep this page solely conservative and keep it to inform the masses the right way, and be better than Liberal Wikipedia.
*I agree with the original poster. This site is going in the opposite direction by applying conservative bias where Wikipedia applies liberal bias. I also disagree with the decision to avoid rules about how to edit. Wikipedia's rules are actually pretty sensible, use a neutral point of view (which does not mean no POV, merely using neutral wording), consensus (which is supposed to involve reasons based on other guidelines, not just a matter of unreasoned, unbased disagreement with an edit - which unfortunately happens on Wikipedia), and no original research (meaning everything is to be backed up, and views given prominence based solely on sourcing). It's actually a good set of rules.
The problem is there's no accountability for admins who don't follow them. What Wikipedia really needs to do is set forth which rules are permissible as an objection to an edit, and require that those who don't provide solid reasoning from this can't be considered as part of the consensus. As Andrew Schafly has said, the result is that Wikipedia can end up acting like a lynch mob. There also needs to be a specific commission just for investigating situations where consensus is occurring without reason. Without that, there's no accountability.
Anyway, I think Conservapedia can become as big as Wikipedia. However, it must seek to start being objective. That can still mean presenting conservative criticisms, but try to present them in order of relevance, meaning directly correlated to their number of reliable sources, and if presented at all otherwise, stick them in a "Minor Controversies" section at the bottom of a page.
Conservapedia must first make its main articles objective and seek to discipline users who shout down others when they are providing well-sourced or reasonable objections. The community must be made fair, in other words, as well as accessible. The Barack Obama article in particular needs a top-down rewriting. After this is done, seek to reform Conservapedia's image as an objective source of information, and a reliable alternative to Wikipedia. Perhaps search engines like Yahoo might be willing to work a deal with Conservapedia so Conservapedia results are shown higher, just as Google did with Wikipedia. However, such a deal would never be considered until Conservapedia makes articles more objective and attracts enough editors to expand its number of pages with quality material.
It would be a long road taking at least 5-10 years for this to even begin. I am willing to help, but want to see Conservapedia begin changing its primary articles and its level of objectivity first. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Jzyehoshua]] 09:56, 30 December 2009 (EST)