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Line 4: − − − ==Oh, COME ON!== − − This article was just editted to "remove the athiest bias". Take a look at the changes. − − '''"In the Christian tradition, he rebelled against [[God]] and was cast from [[Heaven]] to reign over [[Hell]]"''' − − was changed to − − '''He rebelled against [[God]] and was cast from [[Heaven]] to reign over [[Hell]]''' − − :This basically states that Christians are correct, and that it is not only in their tradition, but is fact. Fix this please. − − '''"In the Jewish tradition, Satan faithfully serves God as a tester of the piety of men."''' − − was changed to − − '''"Jews believe that Satan faithfully serves God as a tester of the piety of men."''' − − :This means the same thing, but seems to have been changed to make it seem like the latest change was not to make Christians look 100% correct by adding consistency. Change the wording back or leave it, doesn't matter. − − '''"Christian Views"''' − − was changed to − − '''"History and Goals"''' − − :This, once again, assumes that Christians are 100% correct. There are other views of Satan, not just the Christian view, so this should be changed back to stay accurate and unbiased. − − '''"In Christianity, Satan's goal is to lead people away from the love of God"''' − − was changed to − − '''"Satan's goal is to lead people away from the love of God"''' − − :Once again, trying to show that the Christian view is the only view. Personally, that is not my view, and is therefore inaccurate to say it is the hisory and goals. Change it back to being a Christian idea. − − '''"Some believe that Satan is able to possess and control living humans on Earth"''' − − was changed to − − '''"Satan is able to possess and control living humans on Earth"''' − − :Again, only some people believe that, I personally do not, change it back to keep unbiased. − − '''"The notion of Satan, or an evil force, is noted in many if not all of the major world religions."''' − − was changed to − − '''"The notion of Satan, or an evil force, is noted in many if not all of the major world religions, which offers compelling evidence of his existence."''' − − :Yet again, trying to prove Satan's absolute existance, despite not everyone thinking so. This is a Christian view, and all these sections should be changed back to the unbiased state that they were in. It was not "athiest biased", it was simply showing the possibility of other views. Thank you. --[[User:ALFa|ALFa]] 01:40, 17 March 2007 (EDT) − − − − :::Nevermind, it had already been changed it back by the time I typed all this. Thanks. --[[User:ALFa|ALFa]] 01:42, 17 March 2007 (EDT) Line 91:
Line 34: − − == Defense against Satan == − − I tried to change the section on defense against Satan, but then discovered that the page was locked. The part doesn't cite sources, because I believe that when describing defending against Satan, we should not proscribe anything that is not clearly outlined in the Bible. I'm not saying that the current things are not in the Bible, and if someone would like to look them up and cite references to them that would be fine. I tried to replace it with: − <p>A Christian defense against Satan is the [[Armor of God]]<ref>Ephesians 6:1-17</ref>.</p> − The part that caught my eye wasn't the lack of reference though, it was "...the Holy Spirit, meaning "The Advocate" (i.e., defense lawyer)." Which makes no sense whatsoever, "Holy Spirit means the Holy Spirit, who is a spirit and is holy, there is nothing to the name that could translate into 'advocate' because it is English to begin with!
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== Satan reigning in Hell? ==
== Satan reigning in Hell? ==
:::::::Plus it is scarier if you think about it. Frozen in Lake of ice > Burning in lake of Fire. With Fire, there is just the pain, Ice has a whole psychological aspect heaped on top.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 03:29, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
:::::::Plus it is scarier if you think about it. Frozen in Lake of ice > Burning in lake of Fire. With Fire, there is just the pain, Ice has a whole psychological aspect heaped on top.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 03:29, 27 June 2007 (EDT)