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The answer, of course, is that atheists and other liberals would viciously attack him. And of course liberals would try to trap him in some politically incorrect statement in order to use against him.
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::::::::::Chris, you're using a lot of words but haven't addressed my simple point: how would modern day intellectual elitists treat someone who could perform miracles? And your analogy about replacing silk with polyester doesn't hold up. We're using powerful modern terms not available to the original authors which are an improvement, not replacing the original with cheap alternatives. [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 12:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)
 
::::::::::Chris, you're using a lot of words but haven't addressed my simple point: how would modern day intellectual elitists treat someone who could perform miracles? And your analogy about replacing silk with polyester doesn't hold up. We're using powerful modern terms not available to the original authors which are an improvement, not replacing the original with cheap alternatives. [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 12:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)
 
:::::::::::No need to ask that hypothetically.  Look at James Randi and other skeptics' treatment of faith healers.  Sincere Christians imbued with the gifts promised by Christ help countless people around them, and they're called frauds and charlatans.  When called upon to "prove" their abilities, the goalposts are continually moved and excuses concocted so they can always be discredited in spite of their success. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 12:27, 27 January 2010 (EST)
 
:::::::::::No need to ask that hypothetically.  Look at James Randi and other skeptics' treatment of faith healers.  Sincere Christians imbued with the gifts promised by Christ help countless people around them, and they're called frauds and charlatans.  When called upon to "prove" their abilities, the goalposts are continually moved and excuses concocted so they can always be discredited in spite of their success. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 12:27, 27 January 2010 (EST)
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"If a man walked among us today could cure blindness and disease with a touch and raise children from the dead, who wouldn't tolerate political incorrectness on his part as a price to pay?"  The answer, of course, is that atheists and other liberals would viciously attack him.  Evil still exists, and he would threaten their power and control.  And of course liberals would try to trap him in some politically incorrect statement in order to use against him.  The point is not that the Pharisees wanted to learn the truth themselves, but that they were looking for something to use against Jesus.
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I don't see "heresy" as encompassing all of the tricks and traps used by the Pharisees in questioning Jesus.  "Controversy" doesn't seem to capture the meaning at all.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:21, 27 January 2010 (EST)
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