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Line 78: − − So in practical use free will is: the ability of a thing to turn out one way or another through choice. The alternatives are in the future in respect to the decider. What does the job of deciding can only be known subjectively and is commonly referred to as spiritual. − − The spiritual are understood to be things like "love" "hate" etc. which are commonly known to exist by deciding that they are there, not by measuring. − − There is a distinction between present alternatives that are calculated with a predefined goal, and alternatives that exist in the future. For example a chesscomputer calculates alternatives for the best move, so the chesscomputer is forced to do the best move without any possible alternative, and therefore it cannot choose. In science these principles are referred to as "weak" and "strong" anticipation (D. Dubois 2000). − − religion: the common use of free will in religion is the choice of God to create the universe, the final judgement of God between heaven and hell, and the choice of people to believe in God or not (faith). − − science: scientists generally deny, or redefine free will(reference Daniel Dennett, Robert Rosen). However, in 2006 American scientists demonstrated (P. Kwiat 2006) that they could search a database of 4 elements by only possibly running a search algorithm. Meaning a decision was made to run the algorithm or not, and the decision turned out that the algorithm didn't run. − +
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==Practical use of free will==
==Practical use of free will==
In my opinion the emphasis should be on the practical use of free will. To make clear the logic that people use when they talk in terms of choosing in daily life, but not focus on common beliefs about free will that people might have.
In my opinion the emphasis should be on the practical use of free will. To make clear the logic that people use when they talk in terms of choosing in daily life, but not focus on common beliefs about free will that people might have.
:Sir, you may want to avoid writing these huge "walls of text" in the future. People are less likely to read these huge essays on talk pages than simple, straightforward statements. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 12:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Sir, you may want to avoid writing these huge "walls of text" in the future. People are less likely to read these huge essays on talk pages than simple, straightforward statements. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 12:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:: I made it much less--[[User:Syamsu|Syamsu]] 18:13, 8 February 2010 (EST) I hope we can establish the principle to use common practical knowledge, and not "new" or ideosyncratic ideas of some philosophers
:: I made it much less--[[User:Syamsu|Syamsu]] 18:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)