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:um Karajou, conservative, and liberal are both relative terms. For instance Adam Smith was a liberal for time, but know his views are known as conservative. The tories according to any dictonary and this site are conservative. They would have favored mercantilism as insted of capitalism. Alexander Hamilton by believing in Capitalism and Adam Smith's teachings in The Weath of Nations, published in 1776 makes him liberal in referance to his time period, yet conservative if he were around today. THis is why I felt the most conservative of the founding father was a confusing phrase and shouold be removed. --rightStuff 4:09 March 04, 2010
:um Karajou, conservative, and liberal are both relative terms. For instance Adam Smith was a liberal for time, but know his views are known as conservative. The tories according to any dictonary and this site are conservative. They would have favored mercantilism as insted of capitalism. Alexander Hamilton by believing in Capitalism and Adam Smith's teachings in The Weath of Nations, published in 1776 makes him liberal in referance to his time period, yet conservative if he were around today. THis is why I felt the most conservative of the founding father was a confusing phrase and shouold be removed. --rightStuff 4:09 March 04, 2010
::The writings of George Washington as well as the writings about Washington by those who knew him personally state directly that he was a deeply-Christian man of the Episcopalian Church, yet there are liberal people today who demand that he be called a ''[[deist]]'', thereby distorting his memory and record. When the word ''liberal'' is used in reference to the Founding Fathers, it is done by people of today who want to place those men with themselves, as if they are alive and around today. But just what is the record of liberalism today? Is it not distortions? Is it not outright lying? Is it the removal of First Amendment rights, such as freedom of speech and the press (read "kill talk radio bills), freedom of religion (read "kid suspended from school for bring Bible"); freedom to assemble (read "atheist burns down Texas churches")? Does anyone here honestly think that a man of the integrity of Washington would associate which such people? Washington ''fought'' against them during the Revolution. And Hamilton was a close associate of Washington, politically and militarily. Hamilton was the major author of the ''Federalist'', of which there are ideas which plainly contradict what liberals are saying now. Which is why I'm making a demand that RightStuff read it for himself.
::No, we're not going to have modern liberals equate themselves with the Founding Fathers at all. Despite the dictionary definition [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberal], a modern liberal will never give; he will ''take'', and ''take'', and ''take'', until there is nothing left. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 18:23, 4 March 2010 (EST)