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:No progress or stability can come from struggle. What we need, on the contrary, is voluntary cooperation. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 15:36, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
:No progress or stability can come from struggle. What we need, on the contrary, is voluntary cooperation. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 15:36, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
::To Ed: see Engels’s letter to A. Bebel of March 18-28, 1875 (in Marx and Engels, Selected Correspondence, Moscow, 1955, p. 357), wherein Engels says the following:
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"As, therefore, the state is only a transitional institution which is used in the struggle, in the revolution, to hold down one’s adversaries by force, it is sheer nonsense to talk of a ‘free people’s state’; so long as the proletariat still needs the state, it does not need it in the interests of freedom but in order to hold down its adversaries, and as soon as it becomes possible to speak of freedom '''the state as such ceases to exist'''"
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::Therefore, it was the belief of Engels that the state would wither away under Communism. In fact it's pretty much common knowledge that this was what Marx and Engels were proposing. Of course, the difference is when this was put into practice. Nonetheless, the point remains that Marx et al ''did'' say that the state should wither away after the transitional period of a dictatorship of the people.
::Please respond to this, I'd like to hear your insights into this. [[User:Blake|Blake]] 12:59, 8 March 2010 (EST)
== About communism - is it possible to edit the article anyway? ==
== About communism - is it possible to edit the article anyway? ==