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Talk:John 15-21 (Translated) (view source)
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Does John redefine the meaning of "logos" here? Also, capitalize "T" in truth? (This is not my question, but I have moved this question from the analysis column to the talk page, as I believe it fits better here)--[[User:MBack|Michael Back]] 15:44, 17 March 2010 (EDT)
Does John redefine the meaning of "logos" here? Also, capitalize "T" in truth? (This is not my question, but I have moved this question from the analysis column to the talk page, as I believe it fits better here)--[[User:MBack|Michael Back]] 15:44, 17 March 2010 (EDT)
:First question: Does John redefine logos here? No. John is NOT saying that logos now "means" truth. John is stating that the totality of everything that God says, logos, is the ultimate and absolute standard of Truth. All other "truth" is to be measured against everything that God says. If anything can be said to be absolutely TRUE, is the the logos of God.
:Second question: Should truth be capitalized here? Yes. Capitalizing the word "truth" in English is how we identify that we are speaking of an unchanging, eternal absolute. We signify that by capitalizing the word "truth." The comment has been made that Greek has no single word that means the same thing as we mean in English when we capitalize "truth." Actually, English has no separate word for that either. We use the same word for "truth" as we do for "Truth." We do NOT use a separate word, we use the same word, and distinguish between it with a "grammatical" change (we capitalize the first letter). This is very clear in spoken English, as we make no verbal distinction between the two. Greek does the same thing. The distinction between "truth" and "Truth" is found in the grammatical construction and context, NOT as a separate word. So Greek DOES have an equivalent of when we capitalize "Truth," and they illustrate that with context and construction.--[[User:MBack|MBack]] 15:55, 17 March 2010 (EDT)
== Validity of Chapter 21 ==
== Validity of Chapter 21 ==