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The KAL 007 related Soviet/ U.S naval confrontation (view source)
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The military and civilian diving sessions at no time overlapped. When the military divers had
The military and civilian diving sessions at no time overlapped. When the military divers had
is hard to understand what sense the military saw in the trawling operation. First drag
is hard to understand what sense the military saw in the trawling operation. First drag
everything haphazardly around the bottom by the trawls, and then send in the submersibles?...
everything haphazardly around the bottom by the trawls, and then send in the submersibles?...
It is clear that things should have been done in the reverse order.”95
It is clear that things should have been done in the reverse order.”
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general impression of secondary placement: <blockquote>
general impression of secondary placement: <blockquote>
“The impression is that all of this has been
“The impression is that all of this has been
dragged here by trawl rather than falling down from the sky.”96
dragged here by trawl rather than falling down from the sky.”
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even occurred: Was it really a passenger plane, or is that a deception? I remember we put
even occurred: Was it really a passenger plane, or is that a deception? I remember we put
together this independent version (we had to explain the situation to ourselves somehow):
together this independent version (we had to explain the situation to ourselves somehow):
they did have an accident with a specific Boeing somewhere out there, but then they ‘covered’ it with this forgery—this spy plane.”97
they did have an accident with a specific Boeing somewhere out there, but then they ‘covered’ it with this forgery—this spy plane.”
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Vladimir Bondarev:
Vladimir Bondarev:
“From Captain Girs’ diary: ‘Submergence 10 October. Aircraft pieces, wing spars, pieces of
“From Captain Girs’ diary: ‘Submergence 10 October. Aircraft pieces, wing spars, pieces of
aircraft skin, wiring, and clothing. But—no people. The impression is that all of this has been
aircraft skin, wiring, and clothing. But—no people. The impression is that all of this has been
dragged here by a trawl rather than falling down from the sky…’”99
dragged here by a trawl rather than falling down from the sky…’"
“So we were ready to encounter a virtual cemetery. But one submergence went by, then the
“So we were ready to encounter a virtual cemetery. But one submergence went by, then the
second, and then the third... During the entire rather lengthy period of our work near Moneron,
second, and then the third... During the entire rather lengthy period of our work near Moneron,
I and my people had maybe ten encounters with the remains of Boeing passengers. No more
I and my people had maybe ten encounters with the remains of Boeing passengers. No more
than that.”100
than that.”(8)
“Something else was inexplicable to us—zipped up clothes. For instance, a coat, slacks, shorts,
“Something else was inexplicable to us—zipped up clothes. For instance, a coat, slacks, shorts,
a sweater with zippers—the items were different, but— zipped up and nothing inside. We
a sweater with zippers—the items were different, but— zipped up and nothing inside. We
was touched all this fell apart... I saw what I thought was a fist in a glove. And then, remember,
was touched all this fell apart... I saw what I thought was a fist in a glove. And then, remember,
we saw a torso without a head, wearing a jacket. And winding their way out from under the
we saw a torso without a head, wearing a jacket. And winding their way out from under the
jacket were some white strands—apparently the remains of entrails…”101
jacket were some white strands—apparently the remains of entrails…” (9)
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“I did not miss a single dive. I have quite a clear impression: The aircraft was filled with
“I did not miss a single dive. I have quite a clear impression: The aircraft was filled with
garbage, but there were really no people there. Why? Usually when an aircraft crashes, even a
garbage, but there were really no people there. Why? Usually when an aircraft crashes, even a
small one... As a rule there are suitcases and bags, or at least the handles of the suitcases.”102
small one... As a rule there are suitcases and bags, or at least the handles of the suitcases.”
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“But the main thing was not what we had seen there but what we had not seen—the divers had
“But the main thing was not what we had seen there but what we had not seen—the divers had
found practically no human bodies or remains…”103
found practically no human bodies or remains…”
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interesting. I thought at that time—it is impossible to simulate the death of such a number of
interesting. I thought at that time—it is impossible to simulate the death of such a number of
people... to organize their relatives who would be in mourning—in Korea, Thailand, the United
people... to organize their relatives who would be in mourning—in Korea, Thailand, the United
States, Taiwan... You might be able to fake two or three—but two hundred or more?…”104
States, Taiwan... You might be able to fake two or three—but two hundred or more?…”
“But there was no fire in the Boeing—that is for sure. Things were intact, although all
“But there was no fire in the Boeing—that is for sure. Things were intact, although all
thoroughly saturated with kerosene. So... you heard all kinds of talk among members of this
thoroughly saturated with kerosene. So... you heard all kinds of talk among members of this
than the tears and the curses of those who lost their loved ones…”
than the tears and the curses of those who lost their loved ones…”
“No, no one asked us to recover people’s remains. Only—components, tapes, documents, the
“No, no one asked us to recover people’s remains. Only—components, tapes, documents, the
black box.”105
black box.”
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found floating on the sea (KAL 007 would have carried over 450 suitcases in the cargo area).
found floating on the sea (KAL 007 would have carried over 450 suitcases in the cargo area).
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*6) Izvestiya, May 27, 1991, p. 6.
*6) Izvestiya, May 27, 1991, p. 6.
*7) Izvestiya, May 27, 1991, p. 6.
*7) Izvestiya, May 27, 1991, p. 6.
*8) There is no way of ascertaining from this testimony if the “ten encounters” were with ten separate
bodies or (more likely) ten encounters with a lesser number of bodies. It is entirely possible that these
encounters were with fragments from the same individual.
*9) In all the divers’ reports, this is the only reference to a torso—that is, a body. The ten passenger disparity takes into account the unlikely possibility that the divers’ ten encounters with the remains of Boeing passengers were with the remains of ten separate individuals.