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== Atheism in muslim countries? ==

== Atheism in muslim countries? ==

I am pretty sure, Obama was born a muslim; his muslim father may have been an atheist in his heart, but that is simply irrelevant; this (like any other powerful) religion is not an idea-ology only, it is a social fact nobody can escape from (or gets killed trying - this is not islamophobia, but common sense). On the other hand Obama perhaps must be believed if he says he converted to Christianity. If we do not believe that we should have some prove. But this conversion also is completely irrelevant; if we are interested in the reaction/stance/image of the Arab and Muslim (e.g. Indonesia, Nigeria etc.) World towards him, as he will still be seen as a Muslim there? I think this is the only political important part of this whole question. Is Obama a Muslim in the eyes of a great prt of the (Israelhting, oilproducing) world or not.--[[User:Radh|Radh]] 11:49, 19 March 2010 (EDT)

Obama was born a Muslim; his father may have been an atheist at heart, but who cares? That (also unverifiable) "fact" is simply irrelevant; this religion is not a theoretical system of philosophical thoughts only, it is a social fact and one nobody living in the Muslim world can escape from (he/she will get killed trying to be an open atheist there - this is not "Islamophobia", but common sense).  

 

Obama perhaps should simply be believed when he says he converted to Christianity.  

 

But this conversion also is irrelevant, if we are interested in the reaction/stance/image of the Arab and Muslim (e.g. Indonesia, Nigeria etc.) World towards him, as he will still be seen as a Muslim there. This seems to be the only really political important part of this whole question. Is Obama a Muslim in the eyes of a great part of the world or not.--[[User:Radh|Radh]] 11:49, 19 March 2010 (EDT)