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:::::: Yill, do you know what [[action-at-a-distance]] is?  It doesn't require the fictional gravitons.  Newtonian mechanics doesn't require such imaginary particles.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:00, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
 
:::::: Yill, do you know what [[action-at-a-distance]] is?  It doesn't require the fictional gravitons.  Newtonian mechanics doesn't require such imaginary particles.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:00, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
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:::::::Do you know what ''quantum'' means?  Please acknowledge that you do, and that you know Newtonian mechanics is not a quantum theory, and therefore that ''your response does not address my concern.'' [[User:Yill|Yill]] 00:19, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
    
::The "flatness problem" refers primarily to curvature expected from inflation, not GR itself.  It is misleading to call the counterexample the "flatness problem," and then pretend it has a solution.  The counterexample described is not resolved.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:12, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
 
::The "flatness problem" refers primarily to curvature expected from inflation, not GR itself.  It is misleading to call the counterexample the "flatness problem," and then pretend it has a solution.  The counterexample described is not resolved.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:12, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
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::::::Dark matter supposedly permeates the universe, and there's no way it would be flat if GR were true.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:48, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
 
::::::Dark matter supposedly permeates the universe, and there's no way it would be flat if GR were true.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:48, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
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:::::::Okay, now ''that'' is a total non sequitur.  Again, instead of making blanket assertions, perhaps you should learn why, given that they believe dark matter permeates the universe ''and'' that it is flat on large scales, cosmologists still think GR works.  Let me enlighten you.  If the universe were evenly filled with a uniformly dense substance, the curvature would be flat.  Yet there were would be matter in it!  And that's it.  On large enough scales, that's how the universe appears.  Hence there is no contradiction. [[User:Yill|Yill]] 00:19, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
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