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::It took me only a minute or so to look at the first request for data in [[Richard Lenski]] (concerning turbidity), and then search the pdf for "turbid" for me to observe that the actual data are not there.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:08, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
 
::It took me only a minute or so to look at the first request for data in [[Richard Lenski]] (concerning turbidity), and then search the pdf for "turbid" for me to observe that the actual data are not there.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:08, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
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:::That data was in the paper, [http://www.pnas.org/content/105/23/7899/F1.expansion.html Fig. 1] he ran 5 trials and presented the mean and CI95 which is standard for the field. Do you suspect that he miscalculated the mean or standard deviation? I'm not sure what "higher definition" data underlying the figure you might want. --[[User:EmersonWhitecp|EmersonWhitecp]] 19:30, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
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:::Sorry I thought you were talking about a different data set. Fig. 1 Is the recreation that they measured. However if you read the paper he said that the turbidity was measured visually, that means that someone looked at it every day to make sure it looked alright, not that someone did a disk test for turbidity which would be impractical in such a small volume. This is standard procedure for liquid culture in a laboratory, something even college sophomores have to learn to do. --[[User:EmersonWhitecp|EmersonWhitecp]] 19:30, 15 April 2010 (EDT)

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