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What is a fascinating question is whether motion can continue indefinitely in a closed system.  One quote above implies it can, but I doubt most would agree.  I wouldn't.  --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:59, 1 January 2007 (EST)
 
What is a fascinating question is whether motion can continue indefinitely in a closed system.  One quote above implies it can, but I doubt most would agree.  I wouldn't.  --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:59, 1 January 2007 (EST)
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He's right Mr. Schlafly; the impossibility of perpetual motion is proven by the 1st law of thermodynamics, not the second.
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OK, Ben, but define perpetual motion machine in a trivial away and it only results in a trivial answer.
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How about this, let's define "perpetual motion machine II" that simply means a machine capable of perpetual motion (without a perpetual energy supply).
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Now that's an interesting question that is difficult to answer fully!  --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:05, 1 January 2007 (EST)
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I've moved this debate back to the talk page for the entry for perpetual motion machine, and responded to Ben there.--Aschlafly 19:02, 1 January 2007 (EST)
    
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