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vexing to have to go and see who said this, isn't it?
::::Karajou -- please, define socialism. The last time I checked it referred to government control of the means of production that falls short of the ultimate goal of communism where the goal is the collective ownership of the means of production. I put it to you that you are misusing the word socialism here.
::::Karajou -- please, define socialism. The last time I checked it referred to government control of the means of production that falls short of the ultimate goal of communism where the goal is the collective ownership of the means of production. I put it to you that you are misusing the word socialism here.
:::::You just defined it. Now see the news about GM, Freddie Mae, Fannie Mac, the oil drilling industry, the current bills to control the internet, etc. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:16, 14 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::You just defined it. Now see the news about GM, Freddie Mae, Fannie Mac, the oil drilling industry, the current bills to control the internet, etc. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:16, 14 July 2010 (EDT)
*'''In reading the above, it all seems like gibberish, as someone is not signing their posts. It is not my job to go to the pages history to see who is saying what, and typically I will delete such unsigned posts and block the user. Maybe this post will serve as a hint.