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→Women's influence on science: Let's just tell the truth, and let the chips fall where they may.
::It's difficult to discuss these matters, because the last time a prominent academic tried to do so, he was set up for a fall (see [[Lawrence Summers]]). If you want to help write honestly about women's influence on science, I'm happy to help. But please don't waste my time by trying to inject feminist propaganda. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 16:27, 14 July 2010 (EDT)
::It's difficult to discuss these matters, because the last time a prominent academic tried to do so, he was set up for a fall (see [[Lawrence Summers]]). If you want to help write honestly about women's influence on science, I'm happy to help. But please don't waste my time by trying to inject feminist propaganda. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 16:27, 14 July 2010 (EDT)
:::[http://www.factmonster.com/spot/whmbios2.html These] [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/women-in-science-pioneers-blaze-path-for-others-1924794.html links] may be of interest. The only one I had heard of, aside from Curie, was [[Rosalind Franklin]], who featured prominently in ''[[The Double Helix]]''. [[User:Tisane|Tisane]] 17:12, 14 July 2010 (EDT)
:::[http://www.factmonster.com/spot/whmbios2.html These] [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/women-in-science-pioneers-blaze-path-for-others-1924794.html links] may be of interest. The only one I had heard of, aside from Curie, was [[Rosalind Franklin]], who featured prominently in ''[[The Double Helix]]''. [[User:Tisane|Tisane]] 17:12, 14 July 2010 (EDT)
::I'm all in favor of finding out more about the obscure, the overlooked, and the downtrodden. For example, in classical music, if there have been any women composers whose compositions I've been ignoring, I'd love to listen to their music. And in literature, I finally discovered [[Jane Austen]] (women have made further inroads in fiction writing than in music, it seems).
::There's even a woman whose work is prominent in the [[global warming]] field. She's a Harvard astrophysicist. [http://www.uwo.ca/sci/publications/images/Baliunas.jpg]
::But it's '''because''' their contributions are so rare that one is interested; the last thing I'd want to do is pretend that their contributions have been commensurate. That would sweep under the rug any actual differences due to inclination or opportunity. Let's keep it real, baby. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:48, 14 July 2010 (EDT)