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| | :::I think we'll have to disagree on this one. I'm sure that every political party has platformed on the future. Even in campaigning candidates say "If I'm elected..." which is about the future, albeit very near. While Communists may encourage worship of the present leader, much of their promises to the people are about the way things will be in the future. | | :::I think we'll have to disagree on this one. I'm sure that every political party has platformed on the future. Even in campaigning candidates say "If I'm elected..." which is about the future, albeit very near. While Communists may encourage worship of the present leader, much of their promises to the people are about the way things will be in the future. |
| | :::In our society, every bit of criticism or praise is focused on our current leaders (kind of like those Communists), but their promises are about things that will come to fruition ''someday''. If anything, it seems liberals would fit the song's ideas better than conservatives: conservatives enact policies that make sense ''now'', while liberals try to preempt nonexistent threats like global warming with policies that aren't necessary immediately, but supposedly are necessary to "ensure our future," or some made up excuse like that. | | :::In our society, every bit of criticism or praise is focused on our current leaders (kind of like those Communists), but their promises are about things that will come to fruition ''someday''. If anything, it seems liberals would fit the song's ideas better than conservatives: conservatives enact policies that make sense ''now'', while liberals try to preempt nonexistent threats like global warming with policies that aren't necessary immediately, but supposedly are necessary to "ensure our future," or some made up excuse like that. |
| − | :::Here are the lyrics from the song: [[http://www.lyricsfreak.com/f/fleetwood+mac/dont+stop_20054276.html)]]. It seems to be about an incident in a relationship. While I see how this song could be applied to conservative values, I don't see anything that prevents it being applied just as well to most value systems. [[User:ChrisGT90|ChrisGT90]] 22:42, 2 August 2010 (EDT) | + | :::Here are the lyrics from the song: [[http://www.lyricsfreak.com/f/fleetwood+mac/dont+stop_20054276.html]]. It seems to be about an incident in a relationship. While I see how this song could be applied to conservative values, I don't see anything that prevents it being applied just as well to most value systems. [[User:ChrisGT90|ChrisGT90]] 22:42, 2 August 2010 (EDT) |
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| | :::: Your link is broken. Perhaps the parenthesis is out of place? In response to your comments, communist China looks very much to the past, and places great emphasis on it. | | :::: Your link is broken. Perhaps the parenthesis is out of place? In response to your comments, communist China looks very much to the past, and places great emphasis on it. |
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| | :::: I don't see how all ideologies could possibly emphasize the future versus the past in exactly the same way. To take just one conservative insight, the [[Laffer Curve]], it points out how future behavior changes to increase government revenue when taxes are cuts. Many liberals are unable to grasp this given their mindset that places less emphasis on future behavior.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:01, 2 August 2010 (EDT) | | :::: I don't see how all ideologies could possibly emphasize the future versus the past in exactly the same way. To take just one conservative insight, the [[Laffer Curve]], it points out how future behavior changes to increase government revenue when taxes are cuts. Many liberals are unable to grasp this given their mindset that places less emphasis on future behavior.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:01, 2 August 2010 (EDT) |
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| | + | ::::: There was an extra parenthesis at the end. The link is fixed now. As far as the future is concerned, it seems that parties emphasize whatever aspect of the future they need to in order to sway the public to their side. Conservatives may point out the Laffer Curve as it relates to the future, while liberals may place emphasis on something else in the future. (They are '''very''' much concerned about the future when it comes to the environment.) Whether the way they look at the future is right or wrong is irrelevant, the fact is that both groups look to the future in the ways that they believe are best. |
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| | + | ::::: In regards to Communist China looking to the past, do you not draw great insight from the Bible? I personally hold the founding fathers in very high esteem, they are figures from the past as well. Looking into the past offers great insights, and shouldn't be ignored. Whether they praise the past or simply examine it depends on who's spinning the story. |
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| | + | ::::: Every party/affiliation/faith/value system will look into the past. You can spin it any way want, but it's something all of them do. They may look at different aspects of the past, but all of them value the past. Every party/affiliation/faith/value system also seeks to improve the future. That, too, is something you can spin any way you want to. Like they do with the past, they will look at different aspects of the future, and you can devalue certain aspects until you decide that a particular groups view of the future is not worthwhile, but that doesn't change the fact that they '''are''' looking to the future. They may not look to the future in the right way, but they're still looking there. Every political organization ostensibly exists to change the future -- nobody tries to improve people's lives by changing the past. Whether that's what they actually do or not is not another story, but every system can still claim that "looking to the future" is one of their core values. |
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| | + | ::::: As for the song, just leave it in the list. I don't care anymore. [[User:ChrisGT90|ChrisGT90]] 00:22, 3 August 2010 (EDT) |