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If you've got time, we could sure use your help on this. It could even turn into a guideline on [[Use of quoted material]]. :-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 11:12, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
If you've got time, we could sure use your help on this. It could even turn into a guideline on [[Use of quoted material]]. :-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 11:12, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
#That [[Margaret Sanger]]
:Thank you for the reply and the clarification.
:Thank you for the reply and the clarification.
:The standard I am proposing is that sources have to be roughly what they would have to be if a person were writing their addition to the article as part of a college (or even a high school—assuming the high school is sufficiently strict) paper—a source used as a reference has to be reliable either by virtue of expertise or by virtue of it being an eyewitness account (or in the case of some newspaper articles a second hand eyewitness account). I’m not sure what standard you are proposing, but I would be very interested to know what exactly it is and why you think it is superior. --[[User:Reginod|Reginod]] 12:01, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
:The standard I am proposing is that sources have to be roughly what they would have to be if a person were writing their addition to the article as part of a college (or even a high school—assuming the high school is sufficiently strict) paper—a source used as a reference has to be reliable either by virtue of expertise or by virtue of it being an eyewitness account (or in the case of some newspaper articles a second hand eyewitness account). I’m not sure what standard you are proposing, but I would be very interested to know what exactly it is and why you think it is superior. --[[User:Reginod|Reginod]] 12:01, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
::A quick search finds the first quote attributed to Herbert Spencer here <ref>http://spartan.ac.brocku.ca/~lward/LeBon/LeBon_1899/LeBon_1899_24.html</ref>. A bit more reaserch finds it here <ref>http://swiss.csail.mit.edu/~rauch/abortion_eugenics/sanger/sanger_05.html</ref> as part of an epigram to a chapter of a book Sanger wrote. So, I would argue that it is absolutely out of contex. --[[User:Reginod|Reginod]] 12:09, 2 April 2007 (EDT)