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::Second point: That I never proposed an alternative.

::Second point: That I never proposed an alternative.

::And to your surprise: I proposed weeks ago (18 March) how to measure the liberal bias of Wikipedia in this very section. The second itemized list, last bullet point. When do you start to read answers, rather than complain that nobody give you an answer?

::And to your surprise: I proposed weeks ago (18 March) how to measure the liberal bias of Wikipedia in this very section. The second itemized list, last bullet point. When do you start to read answers, rather than complain that nobody gives you an answer?

::My answer was and is,

::My answer was and is:

::*Select 100 random articles. Wikipedia gives you the option to do so, and it would be random sample. You might want to rule or stubs and articles flagged as POV. So, you click the random article link in Wikipedia, until you got hundred that are not stubs, and not POV.

::*Select 100 random articles. Wikipedia gives you the option to do so, and it would be a nice random sample. You might want to rule or stubs and articles flagged as POV. So, you click the random article link in Wikipedia, until you got hundred that are not stubs, and not POV.

::*You read those, and classify them, according to your standard, into Conservative, Moderate (NPOV), Liberal,  the categories in the Harris poll. You would have to specify, ideally before you start reading, what it means to be conservative, liberal, and moderate (NPOV).

::*You read those, and classify them, according to your standard, into Conservative, Moderate (NPOV), Liberal,  the categories used in the Harris poll. You would have to specify, ideally before you start reading, what it means to be conservative, liberal, and moderate (NPOV).

::*With this raw data you can do all kinds of statistics. Compute liberal bias, conservative bias, and the liberal/conservative bias quotient that you love so much.

::*With this raw data you can do all kinds of statistics. Compute liberal bias, conservative bias, and the liberal/conservative bias quotient that you love so much.

::It will take an afternoons work, but at the end you will have good numbers. You can then go in good faith on public radio and say "We conducted a study".  [[User:order|Order]] 3 April, 11:20 AEST

::It will take an afternoons work, but at the end you will have good numbers. You can then go in good faith on public radio and say "We conducted a study".  [[User:order|Order]] 3 April, 11:20 AEST

* And I did tell you what my definition of liberal bias in a population is. Twice. In this section, called '''Ratio (again)''' , you'll find two itemized lists (lists with bullet points). And the last item in both lists tells you to take the percentage of liberals (which is equal to Liberal/Population). You said now for the second time that nobody gave you an alternative definition. I assume that you are smart guy, so tell me why you didn't see it? And could you for a change start answering questions, rather than evade them. [[User:order|Order]] 3 April, 11:20 AEST

* And I did tell you what my definition of liberal bias in a population is. Twice. In this section, called '''Ratio (again)''' , you'll find two itemized lists (lists with bullet points). And the last item in both lists tells you to take the percentage of liberals (which is equal to Liberal/Population). You said now for the second time that nobody gave you an alternative definition. I assume that you are smart guy, so tell me why you didn't see it? And could you for a change start answering questions, rather than evade them.  

: As explained above, your definition is obviously unacceptable because it doesn't take into consideration the number of conservatives, and the ratio of liberals to conservatives.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 02:06, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

: As explained above, your definition is obviously unacceptable because it doesn't take into consideration the number of conservatives, and the ratio of liberals to conservatives.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 02:06, 2 April 2007 (EDT)